jazzmanb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Start of Sweet Emotion,i got it spot on then leave it a week and revert back to the wrong way .The correct way sounds almost wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzmanb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 10/03/2018 at 09:26, stingrayPete1977 said: I am learning Elvis Costello Pump It Up for rehearsal later, resorted to downloading the dots, every verse and every chorus are slightly different each time both in note choice and quantity of bars! I will simplify it a bit for the real world I think. Agree,by John Paul jones's admission he never repeats himself so on Zep stuff i just role around the neck on the fills and get it on the important bits 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegateNaarifin Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Is Tool well known enough to be included? Jambi has a ridiculous amount of variation, especially under the talkbox guitar solo, plus intermittent use of auto-wah on single chords within a line (an utter hand-foot coordination nightmare!) In slightly more classic territory, haven't tried it for a while but I remember 16 year old me getting confuzzled by Smoke On The Water - the bass does some pretty intricate stuff under the all too well known guitar riffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Most of tool is a bit tricky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlargepants Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: Most of tool is a bit tricky! The guitar is actually very simple generally. The bass and drums though, eek! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopsdabassist Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 hours ago, jazzmanb said: Start of Sweet Emotion,i got it spot on then leave it a week and revert back to the wrong way .The correct way sounds almost wrong Yup that was a bugger for me, I had to simplify it a bit in the end, just too many notes lol...great song though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, drlargepants said: The guitar is actually very simple generally. The bass and drums though, eek! Yes - I don't normally look at drums things, but the drummer in my band loves tool, and is one of the better drummers I have ever played with so when he says about things being hard I tend to listen. I like this, not because the normal 'girl on youtube thing', but its really easy to see what is going on and show the structure of the song, the concentration needed and the relief at the end! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 There's something hypnotically good about Tool! What's your favourite album by them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Forget you - Cee Lo Green Verses - straightforward. Then there's the mid 8 with the bass solo!! (2.38 in 'now baby, baby...) Ok who's cracked that then and can point me in the right direction? I'm currently trying to work it out as we've just added to our covers set and it's definitely a bit of a barsteward to nail! Edited March 18, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlargepants Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I find this tricky, insomuch that it’s relentless and tough to keep locked in all the way through (for me anyway !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Al Krow said: There's something hypnotically good about Tool! What's your favourite album by them? Currently working my way through learning everything on 10,000 days. No idea why, not like I am ever going to find a group that wants to play it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlargepants Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Currently working my way through learning everything on 10,000 days. No idea why, not like I am ever going to find a group that wants to play it Hah I’ve considered learning Wings for Marie but gave up for that very reason. Edited March 18, 2018 by drlargepants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, drlargepants said: Hah I’ve considered learning Wings for Marie but gave up for that very reason. Its a compelling reason but if I had to just learn the stuff I was going to play in one of my groups I would have probably given up bass a long time ago! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegateNaarifin Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Al Krow said: There's something hypnotically good about Tool! What's your favourite album by them? Mine's probably Lateralus, lots of excellent bass work on there (not just the intro to Schism that everyone and their cat seems to learn ) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, LegateNaarifin said: Mine's probably Lateralus, lots of excellent bass work on there (not just the intro to Schism that everyone and their cat seems to learn ) Well, I learned it. Although to be fair, I learned the rest of the song too, and it is quite an important bit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@23 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Al Krow said: Forget you - Cee Lo Green Verses - straightforward. Then there's the mid 8 with the bass solo!! (2.38 in 'now baby, baby...) Ok who's cracked that then and can point me in the right direction? I'm currently trying to work it out as we've just added to our covers set and it's definitely a bit of barsteward to nail! Which bit is giving you trouble? If it's the transcription I can do you a little how to video? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, M@23 said: Which bit is giving you trouble? If it's the transcription I can do you a little how to video? Mark - that's a fantastic offer thank you! It's the couple of rapid run ups during the bass solo bit in that 'mid 8' - quick and quiet on the recording and therefore difficult to pick out. Actually @krispn has just messaged me to point me in the direction of Coco's Basement - I'd not come across that before and seems to be a really good resource (more bass tab focused than ultimate guitar.com which I've been using up til now)...so hopefully that will provide me with enough of a steer to get something a lot closer! Cheers buddy. Times like these, this forum can be a complete boon! Edited March 18, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegateNaarifin Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: Well, I learned it. Although to be fair, I learned the rest of the song too, and it is quite an important bit! Completely agree, and the whole song is such a blast to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzmanb Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 17/03/2018 at 20:46, Oopsdabassist said: Yup that was a bugger for me, I had to simplify it a bit in the end, just too many notes lol...great song though Its like drumming on a bass,two things going on the simple version sounds more convincing,i think its the pressure of opening the song with it as well ,ha! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzmanb Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Currently working my way through learning everything on 10,000 days. No idea why, not like I am ever going to find a group that wants to play it Great album and the type of thing i did as a young Stranglers fan,tend to just pick the licks up on TOOL stuff and jam them at soundcheck these days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japhet Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 We play this. It's a bit of a bugger in F but luckily the singer preferred it in E which makes it a piece of cake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzmanb Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 See the "well known " bit has missed a bit on this thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Heart - Barracuda Simple enough, but I defy anyone to do it without having to count the bar of 5/4 in the verse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dave Vader said: Heart - Barracuda Simple enough, but I defy anyone to do it without having to count the bar of 5/4 in the verse. Used to find that tricky too when i first heard it all those years ago. Not tried it for some time. Put me in the mood for a listen now tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 07:20, scalpy said: Anything by the Stones. That band’s groove is very peculiar. Another vote for the Stones here! A lot of people think they are quite simple, but as you say it's the groove that is tricky. I'm currently brushing up on Not Fade Away for an upcoming dep gig. Practicing to the recording, and keep finding myself out of sync with it. And then worrying that if I do get it exactly as per the recording, the band will be grooving it differently. I doubt I'll get a rehearsal with them. Ah, the joys and challenges of depping! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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