Weird Question but I'm kinda a noob

[Hotel352nd]

So basically. I have heard a sound that I'd like to try and make just because I really like how it sounds. But I don't know exactly what part of the is getting that sound I am looking for. Actually there are 2 sounds. 

First is Justin Chancellors sound. The best video i could find that isolated the bass is a cover. 

I know tool use a lot of effects, but what I'm looking for is that tone. What im wondering is where that comes from? Is it the kind of pick-ups, the amp or a peddle getting the sound? The sound i'm talking about I don't know how to describe, but it is that sound at the start. He also uses a pc instead of an amp, but like Justin Chancellor doesn't. I don't think!! 

 

The other sound I like is the crunchy (best word I can think for it) sound Marco Hietala gets in Nightwish (And I assume Tarot too but I am less familiar with them!) 

 

For the tl;dr how do Justin Chancellor and Marco Hietala get the tone that they do? 

 

Basically I'm on a budget and want to get a sound I like as cheap as I can. 

[Daz39]

A Wal Bass (lots of mids) is a good start.

Check out the Wiki page on him which has loads of info on the effects and bits he uses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Chancellor

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

There's nothing magical about getting that tone. Light gauge round wounds, JBass pickups and a pick, along with lots of practice. A neck through bass with hardwood body helps, but it's not an absolute necessity.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Bill Fitzmaurice

[fleabag]

Start by buying one of these, (Washburn Taurus T24 Neck through which the guy in your video is using ) or something similar

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Washburn-T24-Taurus-Bass-Guitar-Natural-Mahogany/122988219466?hash=item1ca2ab4c4a:g:FI8AAOSw3p1ak18Z

Set of zingy stainless steels strings.  A pick

[stevie]

What a damned awful racket that was!

[fleabag]

Thats what my dad said about Pink Floyd 

[stevie]

And your dad was right!

[Grangur]

The other points for getting the tone of the playing in the vid are to turn up the mids. Turn down the bass, and use a pick. 

[Sandy 5]

Playing closer to the bridge will give you more "twang" (as I think of it sometimes) with either pick or fingers. I didn't realise JC used a pick for ages. (I actually think it took seven or eight months before I realised bassists use them aswell!) He also uses chorus and delay in a lot of tunes, thinking of the bass melody in the grudge as an example. As suggested, try boosting the mids (or cutting the bass/treble) on both amp and guitar

Clueless about Nightwish though. Sorry/not sorry about that 😉

Edited March 16, 2018 by Sandy 5

[Phil Starr]

19 hours ago, stevie said:

What a damned awful racket that was!

I had to listen to check.

Love the rhythm though.

[xgsjx]

8 minutes ago, Phil Starr said:

I had to listen to check.

Love the rhythm though.

Same here & agreed, but I can't help but think that he could do with turning up the bass a bit.
I've never listened to the original, but if the drums are a bass lacking as they are in that, then hopefully there's a sub synth a bit later on the track (I only got about 1:30 in).

[Sandy 5]

It definitely sounds better off the CD. Accounting for taste obviously, if you think it's a racket it's a racket!

[fleabag]

My dad was wrong

 

[stevie]

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years." Attributed to Mark Twain (but not actually by him).

[Woodinblack]

On 16/03/2018 at 13:26, Hotel352nd said:

First is Justin Chancellors sound. The best video i could find that isolated the bass is a cover. 

I know tool use a lot of effects, but what I'm looking for is that tone. What im wondering is where that comes from? Is it the kind of pick-ups, the amp or a peddle getting the sound? The sound i'm talking about I don't know how to describe, but it is that sound at the start. He also uses a pc instead of an amp, but like Justin Chancellor doesn't. I don't think!!

But you are not listening to his tone there, you are listening to someone playing along with it, although it sounds similar, because it is not that hard a tone to get. But there are actual isolated bass tracks out there like this:

Which is obviously easier to work out a tone from, as that really is his isolated bass tone.

As far as I can see the only effect in that one is a bass whammy

 

 

[Hellzero]

Add some distortion, very low action, a Demeter preamp and a Wal and you'll get it ... and you'll loose £5000 GBP.