stewblack Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Never had any time for this band. I always thought they produced a washed out, bland, passionless insult to the great funk and disco bands which preceded them. Strange things happen to one as one grows older, however, and above all when one achieves sobriety. One of the bands I've recently joined performs a tune called Love Foolosophy. What a feckin' ridiculous title, I thought to myself, I wonder what the band is called. You can, dear reader, only begin to imagine my despair on discovering who was responsible for the original. Then I started trying to learn the bassline. I've not only discovered I'm playing without gritted teeth, finding the music rather pleasant, but am actually in awe of the bass part on this track. It's extremely challenging for me to learn, not because it contains anything physically difficult to play but because the ways in which it is phrased and structured are quite alien to the way I usually play. What a marvellous opportunity I've been handed to stretch and enhance my technique and understanding of the bass. And what an endorsement of keeping an open mind. Whatever next? Olives? The Smiths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1000 Brownie points for your thread title......................... Nick Fyffe was the bass player. Great phrasing, this should be on every developing bass players 'to learn' list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Love listening to Jamiroquai... Some of the phrasing in the basslines is amazing...very inspirational. Listen to more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I've no time for that bandy legged, aren't I hard, Poundland Stevie Wonder-U-Like dwarf... but my God he always got lucky with rhythm sections. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, musicbassman said: 1000 Brownie points for your thread title......................... Nick Fyffe was the bass player. Great phrasing, this should be on every developing bass players 'to learn' list. Aithangyoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Wait, what? Developing bass player? I've been doing this like forever. Does this mean I'm still only starting out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Awful, horrid, plastic, soul-less, meaningless pop/pap funk! I used to have to play that song every weekend for 3 years in a band I was in once and it was absolute low point of the evening every time... I've nothing against the backing musicians involved like Nick Fyffe - who are very talented and far more successful than me - it's just something about JK that makes my musical blood run cold. 'Poundland Stevie Wonder' really make me chuckle.. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, silverfoxnik said: Awful, horrid, plastic, soul-less, meaningless pop/pap funk! I used to have to play that song every weekend for 3 years in a band I was in once and it was absolute low point of the evening every time... I've nothing against the backing musicians involved like Nick Fyffe - who are very talented and far more successful than me - it's just something about JK that makes my musical blood run cold. 'Poundland Stevie Wonder' really make me chuckle.. 😁 You see I know nothing of this JK of whom you speak. When I first heard them I just didn't like the noise so I never paid them no nevermind. The bands I'm in now play songs by bands I previously detested but what I find is the bassline is the only thing that matters to me. If it's a cool line I'm on it. Obviously if it's a great tune and a cool line I'm in heaven. The only downers in the set are a couple of turgid rock throwaways with plodding bass parts. YAWN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZilchWoolham Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, stewblack said: Whatever next? The Smiths? There's some excellent bass playing waiting for you when you get there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, ZilchWoolham said: There's some excellent bass playing waiting for you when you get there. If only olives played bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Plus one for The Smiths basslines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I don't mind 'em, as long as you don't call them 'Jimaroquai'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysbass Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: Plus one for The Smiths basslines. Perhaps, but sadly a complete non-starter for me; since to learn said basslines would involve also having to endure Morrissey's voice. In short; a step way too far. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 5 hours ago, stewblack said: I wonder what the band is called. You can, dear reader, only begin to imagine my despair on discovering who was responsible for the original. I did the same journey. Always hated them but now love the bass lines and by a side product, like the tracks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Woodinblack said: I did the same journey. Always hated them but now love the bass lines and by a side product, like the tracks too. Yep, that's the road I'm on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 hours ago, silverfoxnik said: Awful, horrid, plastic, soul-less, meaningless pop/pap funk! I used to have to play that song every weekend for 3 years in a band I was in once and it was absolute low point of the evening every time... I've nothing against the backing musicians involved like Nick Fyffe - who are very talented and far more successful than me - it's just something about JK that makes my musical blood run cold. 'Poundland Stevie Wonder' really make me chuckle.. 😁 Ha ha, I remember posting once that I found Zender's playing inspirational and receiving a similar response from you Nik! Consistency is a virtue! Horses for courses mate, there's something about the way he phrases that's quite magical, as is suggested by the OP, it ain't the notes, it's playing them right that's the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 13 hours ago, stewblack said: You see I know nothing of this JK of whom you speak. When I first heard them I just didn't like the noise so I never paid them no nevermind. The bands I'm in now play songs by bands I previously detested but what I find is the bassline is the only thing that matters to me. If it's a cool line I'm on it. Obviously if it's a great tune and a cool line I'm in heaven. The only downers in the set are a couple of turgid rock throwaways with plodding bass parts. YAWN! play originals, then if the basslines suck....well, you know what THAT means 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Krysbass said: Perhaps, but sadly a complete non-starter for me; since to learn said basslines would involve also having to endure Morrissey's voice. In short; a step way too far. I agree. I've always felt that the Smiths were a cracking band that were limited somewhat by their lead singer. Don't get me wrong, The Smiths were a great outfit as a whole commercially. It's just that Morrissey became so big that the band were considered to be more of an accessory than the means to support the often monotonous delivery of poetry set to music by the mononymously named one. I got over myself one day and decided to learn Heaven knows I'm Miserable Now because it was in a book of TABs. For a hobby bassist like myself it is a good one to loosen the fretting fingers. It took me a long time to really feel it and I still don't feel I can nail it every time but the experience was good. It's the only song I've learned of The Smiths but I now listen to the basslines on their songs as a distraction from the big M's vox. I like the music more than the vocals but the music on its own wouldn't work either. It's a bit like gin and tonic. I'd drink gin neat but I don't like tonic on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Back on topic; I loved Return of the Space Cowboy when it came out first. With hindsight, it was the music video that got my attention. I loved the collection of speakers that were used as props and so watched it every opportunity I got. The tune became familiar and quite acceptable for easy listening. The Jamiroquai phenomenon owes a LOT to music video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 As with most songs I listen primarily to the Basslines - on this count Jamiroquai hit the bulls eye time after time. I think all those who have played Bass in the band have brought something special to the music. I know that some are dismissive of JK but he does write some wicked lyrics... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Beedster said: Ha ha, I remember posting once that I found Zender's playing inspirational and receiving a similar response from you Nik! Consistency is a virtue! Horses for courses mate, there's something about the way he phrases that's quite magical, as is suggested by the OP, it ain't the notes, it's playing them right that's the problem. I remember that, Chris! Just wish my bass playing was as consistent as my online whinging... 😁 I know the music and musicians in his band do a great job but I just don't like JK's voice, songs or hat-ittude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBass Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 The bass playing is generally outstanding. But it’s always the song that comes first for me, and on that count Jamiroquai do little for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I find them an exceptional band. I know a lot of folk don't like JK, but he's a great front man & a great vocalist too. The bassline in this is fantabulous... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I dunno, you buy one little Ferrari and EVERYONE hates you. That's England for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 i don't hate him for owning a ferrari, i hate him personally because he is such an utter tw@t ...albeit good lyricist and frontman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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