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Sad... used to be a national touchstone. You'd watch with your Granny who like Lena Martell. Your sister would like Duran Duran. You'd be waiting for the Smiths. OK I mixed up the time-zones there but you get the picture.

Now the charts are just anonymous. Does anyone know what is no 1 this week?

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7 minutes ago, visog said:

Sad... used to be a national touchstone. You'd watch with your Granny who like Lena Martell. Your sister would like Duran Duran. You'd be waiting for the Smiths. OK I mixed up the time-zones there but you get the picture.

Now the charts are just anonymous. Does anyone know what is no 1 this week?

On the flip side, a CD would cost me £15, now I have access to an almost limitless amount of music for £9.99 a month.

Progress my friend!

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The cultural context of TOTP was very different. We all watched it and we all talked about it. Now there is very little commonality in our media experiences and I think we have lost something as a consequence. Twelve year olds don't discuss pop music any more. Too much porn available.

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47 minutes ago, Bilbo said:

The cultural context of TOTP was very different. We all watched it and we all talked about it. Now there is very little commonality in our media experiences and I think we have lost something as a consequence. Twelve year olds don't discuss pop music any more. Too much porn available.

I remember being in school and my fellow pupils asking if you’d seen TOTP the previous night and then discussing it; good times.

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1 hour ago, Bilbo said:

The cultural context of TOTP was very different. We all watched it and we all talked about it. Now there is very little commonality in our media experiences and I think we have lost something as a consequence. Twelve year olds don't discuss pop music any more. Too much porn available.

Cynicism and realism in equal amounts there. Yep, I remember TOTP was THE subject at school on Fridays, and usually determined what your pocket money was going to be spent on.

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12 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

And don't forget Pan's People. :|

How could we! I was once in a lift at TV Centre with their successors (legs & co, I think) and it shuddered to a stop between floors...for a moment, I thought there might actually be a God, and then the lift started moving again. Oh well.

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It sounds pathetic now, but in the absence of t'internet back in the 80s; Top of the Pops was often the instigator of some severe bouts of GAS.  It was a rare opportunity to check out what gear people were using - Jaydee, Aria Pro and Ibanez basses being personal favourites. B|

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2 hours ago, Bilbo said:

Twelve year olds don't discuss pop music any more. Too much porn available.

To be fair, any 12 year olds hanging around the TOTP studios back in the day probably didn't get much chance to discuss pop music either, due to too much porn on a whole nother level :/

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11 hours ago, Burns-bass said:

On the flip side, a CD would cost me £15, now I have access to an almost limitless amount of music for £9.99 a month.

Progress my friend!

and thus no musician makes money from selling their music anymore, well done sir! you are one of the reasons music is a dying industry. Merch and ticket  sales are the only source of income available to musicians.

WELL DONE 

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8 hours ago, roceci said:

To be fair, any 12 year olds hanging around the TOTP studios back in the day probably didn't get much chance to discuss pop music either, due to too much porn on a whole nother level :/

I worked in TV centre in the 80s and 90s, on TOTP recording days there would often be hordes of kids, almost all girls, wandering around the building having climbed in over walls or sneaked in past security (commissionaires!) on the gates. For a couple of years, I worked in the basement (VT ops), same level as most of the dressing rooms, and there wold be streams of girls trying to find where the stars' were. To us, they were just a bloody nuisance, getting in the way as we got on with our daily routine. It was always ten times worse if there was a big name band in. 

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21 minutes ago, bazzbass said:

and thus no musician makes money from selling their music anymore, well done sir! you are one of the reasons music is a dying industry. Merch and ticket  sales are the only source of income available to musicians.

WELL DONE 

But then I get to hear of musicians that I never would have.  I do think that musicians should get paid more, but then it's musicians who are to blame for that.
My guitarist keeps commenting about getting signed & raking in the dough, but there's 3 main stopping points.  1- We play 60s & 70s inspired rock music (I suggested the band name be "Grandad's Grooves"), 2- We're all old (apart from the drummer, he's 24 but looks like 42) & 3- the singist isn't even mediocre.  I can't see us getting out the jamming room, let alone gigging.  xD

My point being that musicians can make money if they're creative, make music that people want to listen to & are actually good.  They do need to put in a lot of effort & this could even require moving to somewhere where they can get heard (AKA not Perth), but the recorded music is the advertising to get the punters to spend money on you.

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1 hour ago, xgsjx said:

But then I get to hear of musicians that I never would have.  I do think that musicians should get paid more, but then it's musicians who are to blame for that.
My guitarist keeps commenting about getting signed & raking in the dough, but there's 3 main stopping points.  1- We play 60s & 70s inspired rock music (I suggested the band name be "Grandad's Grooves"), 2- We're all old (apart from the drummer, he's 24 but looks like 42) & 3- the singist isn't even mediocre.  I can't see us getting out the jamming room, let alone gigging.  xD

My point being that musicians can make money if they're creative, make music that people want to listen to & are actually good.  They do need to put in a lot of effort & this could even require moving to somewhere where they can get heard (AKA not Perth), but the recorded music is the advertising to get the punters to spend money on you.

I'm sitting here open-mouthed in disbelief at what I've just read. If you made that statement to deliberately be controversial and get a reaction, well OK, you got me.

If you genuinely believe this, I'm afraid I don't have the time or the patience to get into precisely why what you posted is so wrong on so many levels, but I'm sure someone else will. Musicians are to blame? Really?? O.o

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20 minutes ago, lowregisterhead said:

I'm sitting here open-mouthed in disbelief at what I've just read. If you made that statement to deliberately be controversial and get a reaction, well OK, you got me.

If you genuinely believe this, I'm afraid I don't have the time or the patience to get into precisely why what you posted is so wrong on so many levels, but I'm sure someone else will. Musicians are to blame? Really?? O.o

I sort of agree with him on the putting effort in, it requires a lot of dedication and hard work to 'make it' and even then the chances are very very low, as for not making money from record sales, welcome to the digital age, the Gene is not going back in the bottle no matter how much we wish it would

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1 hour ago, lowregisterhead said:

I'm sitting here open-mouthed in disbelief at what I've just read. If you made that statement to deliberately be controversial and get a reaction, well OK, you got me.

If you genuinely believe this, I'm afraid I don't have the time or the patience to get into precisely why what you posted is so wrong on so many levels, but I'm sure someone else will. Musicians are to blame? Really?? O.o

I think you should take the time and patience to point out why xgsjx is wrong, because I think he's pretty much hit the nail on the head.

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