EliasMooseblaster Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 ...so sayeth MU head honcho Horace Trubridge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43540298 Anybody else ever have a run-in with these clowns? I've never forgotten being invited to an initial meeting with some of them, via an email in which they wrote effusively about how much they liked the sound and look of the band, and really thought this was something they could work with...only to turn up and be asked questions such as "so what kind of music do you play?" and "how many are you in the band?" I remain relieved that I didn't hand over any money as a result of that meeting, but I know one or two who were less fortunate. Quote
fleabag Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 I'm surprised in this technological age, that the scum couldn't be traced. At least there was no mention of it Surely such a scam means they have left a trail ? Mind boggles Quote
Happy Jack Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 "As soon as we hear that an artist has been asked to put their hand in their own pocket by a management company, big alarm bells start to ring." Pretty much this. I appreciate that being a musician doesn't guarantee business or finance skills, but neither does it exclude basic common sense. Giving significant sums of money to someone you've never met is simply not a smart move. Ever. 1 Quote
TheGreek Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 There is something to be said about what Jack has written. In fact, so much so, that I plan to research and promote a service looking into management companies and the work they do. If you are interested and keen to get on in the music industry please send £100 to [email protected] 1 2 Quote
EliasMooseblaster Posted March 29, 2018 Author Posted March 29, 2018 You don't happen to also be a member of Nigerian royalty, by any chance? 1 1 Quote
fleabag Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) I dont think he is. There may be a small but significant clue in his forum name. Its hard to spot though ... Edited March 29, 2018 by fleabag 2 Quote
skankdelvar Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Mr WC Fields once observed: 'Never give a sucker an even break'. How true Edited March 29, 2018 by skankdelvar Quote
gs_triumph Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, TheGreek said: [email protected] I've heard of active basses... But what's a dum bass? Quote
FinnDave Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, fleabag said: I'm surprised in this technological age, that the scum couldn't be traced. At least there was no mention of it Surely such a scam means they have left a trail ? Mind boggles If the perpetrators were sending out unsolicited emails, surely they are spam scam scum? Quote
FinnDave Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, gs_triumph said: I've heard of active basses... But what's a dum bass? A precision with flats, and the tone rolled off. Dum dum dum de dum dum. Quote
skankdelvar Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, FinnDave said: If the perpetrators were sending out unsolicited emails, surely they are spam scam scum? 9 minutes ago, FinnDave said: A precision with flats, and the tone rolled off. Dum dum dum de dum dum. Guitarist: "Anyway, it's a 12-bar shuffle in A with an 8-note ending that goes spam scam scum dum, dum de dum dum". Quote
FinnDave Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, skankdelvar said: Guitarist: "Anyway, it's a 12-bar shuffle in A with an 8-note ending that goes spam scam scum dum, dum de dum dum". I'm sure that's on tomorrow night's set list. 1 Quote
MiltyG565 Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 19 hours ago, Happy Jack said: "As soon as we hear that an artist has been asked to put their hand in their own pocket by a management company, big alarm bells start to ring." Pretty much this. I appreciate that being a musician doesn't guarantee business or finance skills, but neither does it exclude basic common sense. Giving significant sums of money to someone you've never met is simply not a smart move. Ever. Exactly. It's a business deal, so you should know exactly who you're dealing with. Search for them online - What have they been up to? Is anyone talking about them? What are they saying? Ask around - Do any of your friends know them? Have any of your friends worked with them before? Would they recommend it? Very basic due diligence. tbh, I do this before a job interview or even a date. Quote
Dan Dare Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 4 hours ago, MiltyG565 said: Exactly. It's a business deal, so you should know exactly who you're dealing with. Search for them online - What have they been up to? Is anyone talking about them? What are they saying? Ask around - Do any of your friends know them? Have any of your friends worked with them before? Would they recommend it? Very basic due diligence. tbh, I do this before a job interview or even a date. So true. There's nothing new under the sun and one born every minute. When I was young and the top of my head didn't get sunburnt, several bands I was in were approached by people promising the earth, in exchange for our hard-earned up front, which would pay for all the hard work they were going to do for us, the demo record (I'm that old) they were going to produce/promote, etc, etc. I'm afraid that if people are taken in by this nonsense, they only have themselves to blame. Quote
PaulWarning Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 when anybody asks for money upfront alarm bells ring, especially when they say "we think you're wonderful we're sure we can help you make it" well if you think we're that good take a percentage of the profits then. Reverbnation are always trying to get money out of me, don't think so Quote
discreet Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 On 29/03/2018 at 15:31, Happy Jack said: ...I appreciate that being a musician doesn't guarantee business or finance skills, but neither does it exclude basic common sense... Quite right Jack, but as we know music attracts flakes and fantasists. They're easy prey. Quote
FinnDave Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 If I was a scam artist, I don't think I'd be targeting musicians, as most of them are flat broke, spending what little they have on new instruments, getting to gigs, buying drugs, etc. I am amazed that this 'company' is supposed to have ripped people off for thousands of pounds - where did they get the money in the first place?? Quote
discreet Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FinnDave said: If I was a scam artist, I don't think I'd be targeting musicians, as most of them are flat broke, spending what little they have on new instruments, getting to gigs, buying drugs, etc. I am amazed that this 'company' is supposed to have ripped people off for thousands of pounds - where did they get the money in the first place?? The victims in the article look quite young to me, so possibly it's The Bank of Mum and Dad? And not everyone's skint Dave, just us. Edited March 30, 2018 by discreet Quote
FinnDave Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, discreet said: And not everyone's skint Dave, just us. Oh, I thought it went with the territory. Everyone I know in music hasn't two pennies to rub together. Maybe I move in the wrong circles! Quote
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