dave_bass5 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) I came across this on Talkbass (im spending too much time there lately) Its a free program for Windows/Mac that allows us to go deep in to pedals like the 60B and edit the tones in real time. Looks pretty cool. I should say ive not yet tried it myself, but will do at the weekend. http://tonelib.net/ Original TB thread here https://www.talkbass.com/threads/free-editor-for-zoom-pedals-b1on-b1xon-ms-60b.1334064/ Edited May 7, 2018 by dave_bass5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jposega Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I’ve been following that thread disappointedly as I swapped my MS70CDR or an MS100BT that doesn’t have a USB port. Still, very cool that someone has finally done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I've just downloaded this and had a quick play on my MS-60B and it's great, so simple and intuitive to use and much easier for editing than the limitations of the Zoom interface. Hats off to the guy who developed it Just need to figure out a way to drag my desktop along so that I can programme the pedal at a rehearsal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Cheers Dave - good shout! Given Osiris' positive reaction above, this should add another cool layer to using and getting the most out of my MS-60B (and also my B3n when he's tweaked it for that). Looking forward to giving it a spin over the weekend. Btw - I think it does a LOT more than just letting you edit 'tones'. I particularly like the ability for us Zoom users to be sharing patches; that is going to take things to whole new level of fun / usefulness I suspect! ToneLib The ToneLib is an easy-to-use application which allows you to see, change and save all the settings in your Zoom pedal through your computer. You can also create complete back-ups of all the tones in your device and go back to them whenever you like. You can even share your patches with others or use a cool patch someone else created. Edited April 12, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 This looks very good. I hope he includes the B3n soon. I cannot get the Zoom Guitar Lab to connect to my B3n. Grrr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Very cool - thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Message from the developer: Hi, A new major version of ToneLib has been released (Win/MacOS). It now supports the Zoom G3n/G3Xn/G5n/B3ndevices. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, Denis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Well, I was excited to see this. I got it to work once with the B3n. Oh joy! Worked a treat, editing patches was a breeze.. Second time, the B3n wouldn't connect, with a no device found message. Dang. I wonder if the tiny USB socket on the Zoom is a bit flaky, because it would not connect to the Zoom Guitar Lab editor AT ALL. Any other B3n owners have a problem connecting via USB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) On 16/04/2018 at 11:51, songofthewind said: Well, I was excited to see this. I got it to work once with the B3n. Oh joy! Worked a treat, editing patches was a breeze.. Second time, the B3n wouldn't connect, with a no device found message. Dang. I wonder if the tiny USB socket on the Zoom is a bit flaky, because it would not connect to the Zoom Guitar Lab editor AT ALL. Any other B3n owners have a problem connecting via USB? Just tried it out with my B3n and MS-60B - no problems at all; as folk have remarked it's a real treat to use. So I think you may have a dodgy USB cable or socket, as you've suspected. I edited about 15 patches on my B3n adding the Low EQ shelf cut to cut out crud below 20Hz - it took less than half the time and effort to do that with ToneLib compared to doing on the B3n, and then dead easy to back everything up afterwards. I think this editing software is going to give a new lease of life / add a lot of fun to using both my B3n and MS-60B (which has a more fiddly interface than the B3n, so the benefit of ToneLib will be even greater with that). Edited May 5, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 On 12/04/2018 at 18:04, Osiris said: Just need to figure out a way to drag my desktop along so that I can programme the pedal at a rehearsal You should check out this thing these dudes have invented**. I think it's called a "laptop" **originally by a chap called Adam Osborne, I believe, first released back in April 1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 One of these will do nicely! http://m.dx.com/p/gpd-pocket-7-aluminum-shell-mini-laptop-umpc-windows-10-system-cpu-x7-z8750-8gb-ram-128gb-rom-silver-488406?tc=GBP&ta=GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Well, it turns out my usb cables were ALL flaky. Got one that worked, all problems solved. I vastly prefer Denis’ Tonelib to the Zoom app. Much easier to use. I am loving the B3n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 hours ago, songofthewind said: Well, it turns out my usb cables were ALL flaky. Got one that worked, all problems solved. I vastly prefer Denis’ Tonelib to the Zoom app. Much easier to use. I am loving the B3n. That's good news! You prefer the ToneLib to the updated Zoom app? I've also decided to settle on ToneLib as it can deal with both my B3n and MS-60B whereas the updated Zoom app does not (I understand) have a MS-60B editor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Yup, the Zoom app is just too fiddly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Flat Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Hi all ! Can anyone out there send me the effects and their settings for the B3n factory patch 59, "Fretless" ? I have changed it but before I had saved the original and also I appear to have deleted the whole factory patch pool. I know I can re-initialise the factory settings but that would mean writing all my (many) user patches down in long-hand so that I could put them back on the B3n. It would be a lot easier if I could just write the original back into patch 59. Anyone who could do this for me would make an old man very happy !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 @B.Flat Here you go, I think this is what you are after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 @dave_bass5 Morning buddy! A request from me, if I may: would you mind changing the title of this thread as it's actually not correct at the moment - the Zoom B3 is the one Zoom multifx that ToneLib doesn't cater for! Maybe something like: "ToneLib editor for Zoom pedals (B3n, B1Xon, B1on and MS-60B)" Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Al Krow said: @dave_bass5 Morning buddy! A request from me, if I may: would you mind changing the title of this thread as it's actually not correct at the moment - the Zoom B3 is the one Zoom multifx that ToneLib doesn't cater for! Maybe something like: "ToneLib editor for Zoom pedals (B3n, B1Xon, B1on and MS-60B)" Cheers! Done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Flat Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Hi Al Krow, thanks, the old man is significantly happier now !! You have saved me a lot of time ( and I don't know how much I've got !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 56 minutes ago, B.Flat said: Hi Al Krow, thanks, the old man is significantly happier now !! You have saved me a lot of time ( and I don't know how much I've got !) My pleasure. Have you downloaded the ToneLib editor yet? It's giving me a new lease of life with my two Zoom pedals - and definitely another source of time saving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) I am going to spend some happy time with this when life calms down next week. Thanks. Edited May 7, 2018 by owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Flat Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/7/2018 at 23:57, Al Krow said: My pleasure. Have you downloaded the ToneLib editor yet? It's giving me a new lease of life with my two Zoom pedals - and definitely another source of time saving Yes, I have downloaded and find the same as you, with my B3n & B1on. One other question. When I was deliberating between B3 or B3n I was sure a trawl had brought up a fairly realistic acoustic upright bass patch. However, forgetting to mark it I cannot find it again. Has anyone else found it and, if yes, could you please put the location up on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) So my Zoom MS-60B has gone from zero to hero in the space of week with much of the credit to the ToneLib editor! Getting into the detail of patch editing is now easy and fun (was pretty laborious previously). 20 effects patches loaded (even including a bit crusher which I thought I could never see myself using live, but combined with the 'dirty-gate' and either an octave or subby EQ, it's pretty lush!) Interspersed with 6 "emptys" (well actually HPF patches) = 26 in total, so I can assign for each letter of the alphabet => easy to scroll through these 26 patches with the stomp footswitch Edited May 16, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Fresh from the TB forum: ToneLib 2.5.580 is available for download. ToneLib gets a significant number of bug fixes and a bunch of features and improvements as highlighted below: +add: support the Patch Sharing Service ( How to use, How to share ) +add: support the Tuner for G3n/G3Xn/G5n/B3n with the latest firmware +add: support the Tap Tempo for G3n/G3Xn/G5n/B3n with the latest firmware +add: support the Rhythm effect for G3n/G3Xn/G5n/B3n with the latest firmware +fix: G1on<->G1Xon and B1on<->B1Xon patch conversion +fix: MS-60B and MS-50G: some effect parameter bugs fixed +fix: G1Xon Pedal parameter bugs fixed +fix: some OSX visual bugs fixed Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) @Osiris PS the guy developing the ToneLib product has also just said: "The Zoom B3 remains at the top my to-do list." That's got to be good news for all you B3 owners! (And actually likely to steal a further march on Zoom's own editor which is not being made available for the B3, as they're obviously keen to push the 'in production' B3n, for very understandable commercial reasons) Edited May 21, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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