spectoremg Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, musicbassman said: That 'lesson' with Carol Kaye.....................is he for real ??? Jawdroppingly appalling and clumsy technique - and he allows someone to put this up on Youtube ??? Carol Kaye is so polite.......like to imagine what she was really thinking............................ And Carol taught James Jamerson too! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, steantval said: He really promotes anti drugs and drink, thats something that can’t be too bad. I was actually agreeing with hm until you wrote that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I prefer playing with fingers, but much prefer the sound out front I get with a pick. After decades of finger playing, I am finally a committed pick player. Many people agree, and say I should have been committed years ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, steantval said: He really promotes anti drugs and drink, thats something that can’t be too bad. Not very rock 'n' roll though, is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Aww I'm not a Kiss fan but I'm going to go with the pro-Gene camp. Yes he's an arch capitalist but... he brought us Van Halen, Rush and was politely respectful when Chris Squire died. Plus he seems happy to engage fans in all his money-making ventures. Not wild about his claims to female conquests... 2,000+ That's just creepy and probably requiring medical attention. And it's also rubbish. Last of a dying R&R dream breed. Edited April 12, 2018 by visog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: boomy sludge fest Another great band name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, discreet said: Another great band name. Better than 'Uncle Fester' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, visog said: Better than 'Uncle Fester' Actually I meant 'Wicked Lester'. Sorry. Said Kiss wasn't my specialist subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) (After dinner) I've just read the thread title properly and reckon he's spot-on - fingers in the studio but pick on stage. Studio technique does not translate well to the stage. Edited April 12, 2018 by FinnDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, FinnDave said: (After dinner) I've just read the thread title properly and reckon he's spot-on - fingers in the studio but pick on stage. I wouldn't take him that literally. In the past he's said the same about high end basses in a live situation too. (He used to play Pedullas at one point.) What he's saying is that in a large concert situation, the details get lost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 minute ago, visog said: I wouldn't take him that literally. In the past he's said the same about high end basses in a live situation too. (He used to play Pedullas at one point.) What he's saying is that in a large concert situation, the details get lost... Well, he's got a point...and thinking about it, I get a good sound in a studio playing finger style, but live, it sounds better with a pick, live benefits from the attack and definition that a pick gives you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dragon Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Read all the thread and all I can think is... It's called a plectrum in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Little Dragon said: Read all the thread and all I can think is... It's called a plectrum in this country. I think you'll find that a great many people in this country refer to them as picks. I also think there are more useful ideas in this thread than a pedantic insistence on the use of an archaic term (and yes, i am usually this bloody minded when I've been drinking!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, Little Dragon said: Read all the thread and all I can think is... It's called a plectrum in this country. Bah! I suppose you call a pickguard a 'scratchplate' as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, Little Dragon said: Read all the thread and all I can think is... It's called a plectrum in this country. Isn't that's just being PICK-y! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysbass Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Thats one hilariously ironic comment; given that the bass seems to be so very low in the mix on the few Kiss records I've heard. Crazy Nights is a prime example. The lack of bass just left me wondering what all the fuss was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, discreet said: Bah! I suppose you call a pickguard a 'scratchplate' as well... I think we should start calling them pickplates. Or scratchguards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 so he cant hear the bass in Who Live at Leeds? Or any Rush or Led Zeppelin songs? dude isn't even an adequate bassist. What a sad #$%@ he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 hours ago, steantval said: He really promotes anti drugs and drink, thats something that can’t be too bad. If that's what clean living does to you I'm off to find my next vat of toxins. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think to get a great live bass sound you need to spit REAL blood, not that fake stuff. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Gene... oh - you don't do drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Anybody else think he looked less creepy WITH the makeup? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkandrew Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I didn't find it that controversial to be honest. I understand what he's saying about needing different techniques for different situations and agree 100% with his sentiments regarding the fact that live your tone is either made or lost by the person on the mixing desk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 So will we be seeing Steve Harris using a pick from now on ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 once again guys, he's not being entirely serious, but probably making the quite valid point that with a pick you usually get a crisper sound (more attack) although I've heard finger players sound like they're using a pick and pick players sound like they're using fingers, Macca springs to mind on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 My personal opinion about this Grade A douche aside, I also 100% disagree with what he's saying. I've never seen any funk players live using a plectrum. If he said that to Larry Graham or Bootsy they'd laff in his faces (both the monster one and his stage make-up) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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