alembic1989 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 I am currently doing a 'sympathetic renovation ' of a bass, and found myself wondering about 'keeping it original '....it's a vintage bass, some parts are impossible to source, so I've been keeping all the original parts and tidying them up as best I can. Looking at the strap buttons, they're brass, but really corroded. Should I keep them on the bass as they're ' original '...or just buy some nice new ones? I know that if I ever try to re-sell it it won't be 100% original so would be worth less just for that tiny thing? What is right thing to do here? Quote
Geek99 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 I’d replace them with something similar and keep the parts. Maybe relic the replacements so they don’t look odd? Quote
T-Bay Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 Depends what it is, a 60s Fender then keep everything original. A random bass worth a couple of hundred quid then do what you think suits it best. Quote
Happy Jack Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Geek99 said: I’d replace them with something similar and keep the parts. Maybe relic the replacements so they don’t look odd? +1 to the first sentence. Maybe not so much to the second. 1 Quote
Rick's Fine '52 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 Depends what it is? Brass strap buttons? Just replace like for like with new versions, and leave the originals in the case, then give the new owner the choice if you decide to sell. Shouldn't affect the value if the holes aren't altered. Even on a vintage Fender, which I'm assuming this isn't, if a part is no longer functional, then you need to replace it. If your concerned about original appearances, try and be as sympathetic as possible with the replacement bits. Simple as that. 1 Quote
Geek99 Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 37 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: +1 to the first sentence. Maybe not so much to the second. Just dump them in a tub of vinegar and green toilet duck for a few days - it’s not tricky Quote
floFC Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, Geek99 said: Just dump them in a tub of vinegar and green toilet duck for a few days - it’s not tricky Or maybe... just keep the old ones?? 1 Quote
lojo Posted April 15, 2018 Posted April 15, 2018 Yep as others have said , replace if you like but keep originals for resale Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Posted April 15, 2018 Thank you gentlemen. I think I'll follow your advice, and replace the crap looking parts, and keep the originals for a potential future owner. Quote
Grahambythesea Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 I’m with Geek99 on this one. If they are really brass, the corrosion with clean off easily. Does the bass have other brass parts? I remember Arias having some really smart brass fittings. Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Posted April 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, Grahambythesea said: I’m with Geek99 on this one. If they are really brass, the corrosion with clean off easily. Does the bass have other brass parts? I remember Arias having some really smart brass fittings. Hi Graham, I THOUGHT the components were solid brass, it was only when I was trying to remove the pitting that I saw traces of copper coming through, I was very surprised. The bass in question is Greco GOB 1200 and is built really well, some lovely quality touches, a high class instrument. ... You live and learn. Quote
Bassassin Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, alembic1989 said: The bass in question is Greco GOB 1200 I would not replace anything on that unless the component was completely unusable. Quote
Ric5 Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I have 15 basses ... all 5 stringers ... not a single one is stock Quote
chris_b Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Original bass or mod. Go bald gracefully or comb over. Same thing. You choose. Quote
Donnyboy Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I was curious about what a Greco GOB 1200 looked liked - is it like this ? Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, Donnyboy said: I was curious about what a Greco GOB 1200 looked liked - is it like this ? Yup. thats the fella. 1 Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, chris_b said: Original bass or mod. Go bald gracefully or comb over. Same thing. You choose. Well put.👌👌 Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Bassassin said: I would not replace anything on that unless the component was completely unusable. I agree. So far the only unusable parts have been the bridge posts, I've managed to source some new brass ones. The nut it came with was non original..a strange affair made from plastic and a brass strip..they were originally solid brass..so I'm fitting another new brass nut...the rest of the brassware is getting a " comb over" as it is very pitted and crap looking. Edited April 17, 2018 by alembic1989 2 Quote
Bassassin Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, alembic1989 said: I agree. So far the only unusable parts have been the bridge posts, I've managed to source some new brass ones. The nut it came with was non original..a strange affair made from plastic and a brass strip..they were originally solid brass..so I'm fitting another new brass nut...the rest of the brassware is getting a " comb over" as it is very pitted and crap looking. I approve. As you probably know, it's a very rare, high-end bass that was only made for a few years, and was technically Japan-only. I don't think Grecos were officially exported anywhere, so the number of these in the UK is likely in single figures. In other words, you're a proper lucky sod! Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bassassin said: I approve. As you probably know, it's a very rare, high-end bass that was only made for a few years, and was technically Japan-only. I don't think Grecos were officially exported anywhere, so the number of these in the UK is likely in single figures. In other words, you're a proper lucky sod! Haha..yes I guess I am a proper lucky sod...but to be fair..I've been looking and gassing for one for ages. Even luckier was that the seller was less than 20 miles away from me!....Result. Im really looking forward to completing the work, and shall of course post some pics when it's completed. Quote
dyerseve Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 solid brass can easily be bought back to new using either a metal polish or wire wool and elbow grease. failing that shot blasting can yield fantastic results and a very funky finish as it did on the bridge, knobs and nut of my Streamer I restored: https://reverb.com/uk/item/10464133-warwick-streamer-stage-1-1988-hand-built-in-germany-inc-brand-new-abs-hardcase If you are interested in the shot-blasting option Im happy to help Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, dyerseve said: solid brass can easily be bought back to new using either a metal polish or wire wool and elbow grease. failing that shot blasting can yield fantastic results and a very funky finish as it did on the bridge, knobs and nut of my Streamer I restored: https://reverb.com/uk/item/10464133-warwick-streamer-stage-1-1988-hand-built-in-germany-inc-brand-new-abs-hardcase If you are interested in the shot-blasting option Im happy to help Thanks for the info, and the offer of help...however the trouble is...the parts don't appear to be solid brass..so shot blasting will bring it back to the base metal Quote
alembic1989 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Posted April 18, 2018 7 hours ago, TheGreek said: Strings??? Oh no!, never thought of that! Game Over 😪 Quote
Skybone Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Do what you need to do, so that you keep it as a "player". However, don't make any physical alterations to it, and keep any parts that you remove. Quote
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