Keeping a bass original?

[alembic1989]

I am currently doing a 'sympathetic renovation ' of a bass, and found myself wondering about 'keeping it original '....it's a vintage bass, some parts are impossible to source, so I've been keeping all the original parts and tidying them up as best I can. Looking at the strap buttons, they're brass, but really corroded. Should I keep them on the bass as they're ' original '...or just buy some nice new ones?

I know that if I ever try to re-sell it it won't be 100% original so would be worth less just for that tiny thing?

What is right thing to do here?

[Geek99]

I’d replace them with something similar and keep the parts. Maybe relic the replacements so they don’t look odd?

[T-Bay]

Depends what it is, a 60s Fender then keep everything original. A random bass worth a couple of hundred quid then do what you think suits it best.

[Happy Jack]

  On 14/04/2018 at 19:53, Geek99 said:

I’d replace them with something similar and keep the parts. Maybe relic the replacements so they don’t look odd?

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+1 to the first sentence. Maybe not so much to the second.

[Rick's Fine '52]

Depends what it is?

Brass strap buttons?

Just replace like for like with new versions, and leave the originals in the case, then give the new owner the choice if you decide to sell. Shouldn't affect the value if the holes aren't altered. 

Even on a vintage Fender, which I'm assuming this isn't, if a part is no longer functional, then you need to replace it. If your concerned about original appearances, try and be as sympathetic as possible with the replacement bits. Simple as that.

[Geek99]

  On 14/04/2018 at 21:23, Happy Jack said:

+1 to the first sentence. Maybe not so much to the second.

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Just dump them in a tub of vinegar and green toilet duck for a few days - it’s not tricky 

[floFC]

  On 14/04/2018 at 22:00, Geek99 said:

Just dump them in a tub of vinegar and green toilet duck for a few days - it’s not tricky 

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Or maybe... just keep the old ones??

[lojo]

Yep as others have said , replace if you like but keep originals for resale 

[alembic1989]

Thank you gentlemen.

I think I'll follow your advice, and replace the crap looking parts, and keep the originals for a potential future owner.

[Grahambythesea]

I’m with Geek99 on this one. If they are really brass, the corrosion with clean off easily.  Does the bass have other brass parts? I remember Arias having some really smart brass fittings.

[alembic1989]

  On 16/04/2018 at 16:07, Grahambythesea said:

I’m with Geek99 on this one. If they are really brass, the corrosion with clean off easily.  Does the bass have other brass parts? I remember Arias having some really smart brass fittings.

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Hi Graham, I THOUGHT the components were solid brass, it was only when I was trying to remove the pitting that I saw traces of copper coming through, I was very surprised. The bass in question is Greco GOB 1200 and is built really well, some lovely quality touches, a high class instrument.

...

 You live and learn.

 

[Bassassin]

  On 16/04/2018 at 16:56, alembic1989 said:

The bass in question is Greco GOB 1200

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I would not replace anything on that unless the component was completely unusable.

[Ric5]

I have 15 basses ... all 5 stringers ... not a single one is stock

 

[chris_b]

Original bass or mod. Go bald gracefully or comb over. Same thing. You choose.

[Donnyboy]

I was curious about what a Greco GOB 1200 looked liked  - is it like this ?

 

 

[alembic1989]

  On 17/04/2018 at 15:58, Donnyboy said:

I was curious about what a Greco GOB 1200 looked liked  - is it like this ?

 

 

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Yup.

thats the fella.

[alembic1989]

  On 17/04/2018 at 10:31, chris_b said:

Original bass or mod. Go bald gracefully or comb over. Same thing. You choose.

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Well put.👌👌

[alembic1989]

  On 16/04/2018 at 21:36, Bassassin said:

I would not replace anything on that unless the component was completely unusable.

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I agree. So far the only unusable parts have been the bridge posts, I've managed to source some new brass ones.

The nut it came with was non original..a strange affair made from plastic and a brass strip..they were originally solid brass..so I'm fitting another new brass nut...the rest of the brassware is getting a " comb over" as it is very pitted and crap looking.

Edited April 17, 2018 by alembic1989

[Bassassin]

  On 17/04/2018 at 16:42, alembic1989 said:

I agree. So far the only unusable parts have been the bridge posts, I've managed to source some new brass ones.

The nut it came with was non original..a strange affair made from plastic and a brass strip..they were originally solid brass..so I'm fitting another new brass nut...the rest of the brassware is getting a " comb over" as it is very pitted and crap looking.

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I approve.

As you probably know, it's a very rare, high-end bass that was only made for a few years, and was technically Japan-only. I don't think Grecos were officially exported anywhere, so the number of these in the UK is likely in single figures.

In other words, you're a proper lucky sod!

[alembic1989]

  On 17/04/2018 at 18:24, Bassassin said:

I approve.

As you probably know, it's a very rare, high-end bass that was only made for a few years, and was technically Japan-only. I don't think Grecos were officially exported anywhere, so the number of these in the UK is likely in single figures.

In other words, you're a proper lucky sod!

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Haha..yes I guess I am a proper lucky sod...but to be fair..I've been looking and gassing for one for ages.

Even luckier was that the seller was less than 20 miles away from me!....Result.

Im really looking forward to completing the work, and shall of course post some pics when it's completed.

[TheGreek]

Strings???

[dyerseve]

solid brass can easily be bought back to new using either a metal polish or wire wool and elbow grease. failing that shot blasting can yield fantastic results and a very funky finish as it did on the bridge, knobs and nut of my Streamer I restored:

https://reverb.com/uk/item/10464133-warwick-streamer-stage-1-1988-hand-built-in-germany-inc-brand-new-abs-hardcase

If you are interested in the shot-blasting option Im happy to help

[alembic1989]

  On 17/04/2018 at 20:56, dyerseve said:

solid brass can easily be bought back to new using either a metal polish or wire wool and elbow grease. failing that shot blasting can yield fantastic results and a very funky finish as it did on the bridge, knobs and nut of my Streamer I restored:

https://reverb.com/uk/item/10464133-warwick-streamer-stage-1-1988-hand-built-in-germany-inc-brand-new-abs-hardcase

If you are interested in the shot-blasting option Im happy to help

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Thanks for the info, and the offer of help...however the trouble is...the parts don't appear to be solid brass..so shot blasting will bring it back to the base metal

[alembic1989]

  On 17/04/2018 at 20:53, TheGreek said:

Strings???

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Oh no!,

never thought of that!

Game Over 😪

[Skybone]

Do what you need to do, so that you keep it as a "player". However, don't make any physical alterations to it, and keep any parts that you remove.