Graham Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Indeed, respect comes from being rich enough to afford a US made Fender, rather than musical skill? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Daz39 said: Like owning a Ford Focus you mean? ubiquitous and therefore best? The American Fender ain't no run of the mill Ford Focus. It is an icon. An iconic sound matched by nothing else and never bettered. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Graham said: Indeed, respect comes from being rich enough to afford a US made Fender, rather than musical skill? You turn up to rehearse with a new band or turn up to a studio session with one. Everyone will be happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jenny_Innie said: You turn up to rehearse with a new band or turn up to a studio session with one. Everyone will be happy. Ignorance is bliss apparently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jenny_Innie said: Everyone should own a Fender Precision. The proper American one - used to be called Standard, now called Professional. Get yourself a new one of those and understand that you own the benchmark against which all other basses are measured. Respect will be yours when you stand on a stage. An unquestionable seat at the top table of bass playing. Don't get me wrong, the Fender P is an icon, it has a much loved tone and it's a great bass. But owning a great bass (whatever make it is) does not make you a great bass player or by, itself, get you any respect. It's definitely NOT 'all about the bass'. It is all about the bass player. Edited April 24, 2018 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jenny_Innie said: The American Fender ain't no run of the mill Ford Focus. It is an icon. An iconic sound matched by nothing else and never bettered. A sweeping statement that means nothing. I love a good US Precision, but I've played and owned better Japanese made Fender P's for half the price. I love a good P sound but have an old Tokai P that delivers an identical tone (possibly even better). The Precision is an icon and I love it. But there are imho equally good and/or better and more versatile instruments out there..... many of which suit alternative styles of playing better..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 58 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Don't get me wrong, the Fender P is an icon, it has a much loved tone and it's a great bass. But owning a great bass (whatever make it is) does not make you a great bass player or by, itself, get you any respect. It's definitely NOT 'all about the bass'. It is all about the bass player. Can't see that I said it was. They'll be happy that you have brought the right equipment - but after that, it's up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Daz39 said: Ignorance is bliss apparently. Why are you being rude to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMG456 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Jenny_Innie said: You turn up to rehearse with a new band or turn up to a studio session with one. Everyone will be happy. Not everyone. I would be decidedly unhappy to be turning up to any situation with only a Fender P bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Jenny_Innie said: Why are you being rude to me? I’m not; it’s the attitude that only a Fender P (a US one at that) is sufficient. You’ve also derailed a thread about dream purchases with a very narrow minded opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I think I could browse the ads here on BC and find something pretty quickly...so many great basses around these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Jenny_Innie said: Everyone should own a Fender Precision. The proper American one - used to be called Standard, now called Professional. Get yourself a new one of those and understand that you own the benchmark against which all other basses are measured. Respect will be yours when you stand on a stage. An unquestionable seat at the top table of bass playing. I’ve owned 2 US P’s in my time. A 70’s and a 90’s which were both fine (much better than my J that came newcand unplayable, the neck needed a shim!) I have huge respect for the man who designed the P nearly 70 years ago, but even he redesigned it several times in his life time. Personally I find the neck width too wide, but you can now get Ps with J sized necks which solves that problem. However the company making them is not what it used to be and the quality for the money is sometimes very questionable. Other makers seem to be able to produce their versions to a better standard than Fender. This thread is about what to get for your 50th. If you have survived gigging, carrying the additionally heavy gear needed for bass playing and the stresses of life upto that age without ruining your back, shoulder , arm and any other part of your anatomy then you’re amazing. Probably many of us need to find something that weighs in a bit less than the average 10lb of a Precision. However I feel it’s case of been there done that got the tee shirt, time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Jenny_Innie said: The American Fender ain't no run of the mill Ford Focus. It is an icon. An iconic sound matched by nothing else and never bettered. Yeh, get it right, more a mondeo than a focus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, EMG456 said: Not everyone. I would be decidedly unhappy to be turning up to any situation with only a Fender P bass. I don’t know, pretty handy in a fist fight! edit - autocorrect, what the hell is a fiat fight Edited April 24, 2018 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: I don’t know, pretty handy in a fist fight! edit - autocorrect, what the hell is a fiat fight A fiat fight - one that breaks down fairly quickly. (although not as quickly as an Alfa fight - which lasts until shortly before squaring up time.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Daz39 said: I’m not; it’s the attitude that only a Fender P (a US one at that) is sufficient. You’ve also derailed a thread about dream purchases with a very narrow minded opinion. You come at me with snide trolling remarks. I call that rude, but I guess you're just projecting your feelings. I shall not see your comments again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jenny_Innie said: You come at me with snide trolling remarks. I call that rude, but I guess you're just projecting your feelings. I shall not see your comments again. Says the Fender troll. Go sealion some other forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSCOWBASS Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Have you played a WAL? Back then I wanted an Alembic so much.......than I got to play two and didn't like them......I bought a WAL mk1. Just saying, the bass you admire so much might not be so good when you play it, always check it out. Good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Daz39 said: Like owning a Ford Focus you mean? ubiquitous and therefore best? That's the blue touch-paper lit then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) I want this bad boy for my 50th. 18 string. Forget a P Bass. You turn up with this. Edited April 24, 2018 by bubinga5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Jenny_Innie said: Everyone should own a Fender Precision. The proper American one - used to be called Standard, now called Professional. Get yourself a new one of those and understand that you own the benchmark against which all other basses are measured. Respect will be yours when you stand on a stage. An unquestionable seat at the top table of bass playing. I know this shows I'm tight, but it would bug me to buy a bass for a treat for my 50th, in the full knowledge that as I walk through the door it's value drops about 50%. For that reason I'd probably look out for a used bass I've always wanted. Each to their own. Some get a kick out of the smell of new paint I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 To be fair, I don't think she mentioned playing the P. Just owning one. Take one with you and gain all the respect and kudos. Then get out your preferred bass... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 back on topic: I already own one of the basses I'd have chosen for a 50th birthday bass. My Aria Pro II SB Black n' Gold. If I had the money I'd commission one of these: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcki Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, MOSCOWBASS said: Have you played a WAL? Back then I wanted an Alembic so much.......than I got to play two and didn't like them......I bought a WAL mk1. Just saying, the bass you admire so much might not be so good when you play it, always check it out. Good luck with your search. Very good point, especially after waiting so long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcki Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, Grangur said: I know this shows I'm tight, but it would bug me to buy a bass for a treat for my 50th, in the full knowledge that as I walk through the door it's value drops about 50%. For that reason I'd probably look out for a used bass I've always wanted. Each to their own. Some get a kick out of the smell of new paint I guess. Yep good point, means the risk of not liking the bass wouldn't cost lots of £££. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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