Andyjr1515 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimothey said: Morning I've routed out for the truss rod with a 6mm bit and went just a smidge over 9mm deep, and I've thinned down the wings to 35mm Hopefully on my lunch I'm going to do the taper of the neck and try and get the wings all glued on Here's the link for how stewmac tell you to fit a truss rod https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Online_Resources/Learn_About_Truss_Rod_Installation_and_Repair/Truss_Rod_Installation.html&ved=0ahUKEwis2pv-6NjbAhWEA8AKHR8NB8UQFggnMAE&usg=AOvVaw2OroVE96fn1E7jqIdJMHNX 😀 Well it certainly says that! Interestingly it doesn't on one of their other articles on the same subject where it stresses the importance of keeping glue away from the slot. Anyway, unless someone can prove to me it's a good idea, I'm personally not allowing epoxy anywhere near the rod slot on installation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Well it's official Sapele, Polycarbonate and Gorilla glue not a good combo!! I thought the neck was solid but NO!!!!! It's just split when I was gluing on the wings 🤬 So last minute alteration I found some Oak strip wood so the neck is now Sapele and Oak I'll have to redo the taper when it's dry then glue on the wings... But if I do say so myself it was starting to looking good 😁 Edited June 19, 2018 by Jimothey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Very sorry to hear it didn't work. It's given me a few ideas though. I found a bit of planed sapele at Harlow's of Derby the other day when I was getting timber for a garden furniture repair. I have undertaken a new project recently so I can't start on it for a bit if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, SpondonBassed said: Very sorry to hear it didn't work. It's given me a few ideas though. I found a bit of planed sapele at Harlow's of Derby the other day when I was getting timber for a garden furniture repair. I have undertaken a new project recently so I can't start on it for a bit if at all. Intriguing!?! What's the project then??? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jimothey said: Intriguing!?! What's the project then??? 🤔 It's not really a project yet but for a long time I've wanted to do a neck for myself with lit side dots. I'm not fond of the front facing ones. They are a bit vulgar and are of no use to me while playing. That said, a bit of flash harry can get you noticed when you are surrounded by equals. Along you came with the notion of a sandwich of timber and plastic... What I might do is make a body with a sandwich filling of translucent material. I'd light it from within so as it defines the body outline of the bass when the stage lighting goes down then just buy a neck with LED side dots. There are some wrinkles in my plan that I need to work out. Of course it could be another of my fanciful flights through my own imagination but you did ask. PS: On reading back I realised that you might be asking about the project I said I had just subscribed to. That's the Basschat podcast. Edited June 17, 2018 by SpondonBassed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) They both sound interesting, Basses with LEDs isn't really my thing but I'd be interested in seeing how you do it and how it turns out?? I'm really not keen on fret dots either I much prefer a block! I'm not sure on this build to whether to try and do the blocks out if the veneer I'm going to use or leave the fretboard plain? What you going to cover on the podcasts?....... Edited June 17, 2018 by Jimothey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Sounds great - I would be happy with side dot leds. I don't really like much on the fingerboard of a bass, it doesn't seem to have a point, but side dots are useful. My Maruszczyk has luminays but I never remember to charge them, so less useful then you would think. Leds though, that would work. Although I suspect I would just use individual leds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimothey said: They both sound interesting, Basses with LEDs isn't really my thing but I'd be interested in seeing how you do it and how it turns out?? I'm really not keen on fret dots either I much prefer a block! I'm not sure on this build to whether to try and do the blocks out if the veneer I'm going to use or leave the fretboard plain? What you going to cover on the podcasts?....... These should bring you up to date: Basschat Podcast Basschat Podcast Q&A 9 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Sounds great - I would be happy with side dot leds. I don't really like much on the fingerboard of a bass, it doesn't seem to have a point, but side dots are useful. My Maruszczyk has luminays but I never remember to charge them, so less useful then you would think. Leds though, that would work. Although I suspect I would just use individual leds. I was thinking about an LED colour changer in the body that is piped out through the neck via fibre optics. Probably a bit ambitious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: I was thinking about an LED colour changer in the body that is piped out through the neck via fibre optics. Probably a bit ambitious. Well, not that bad an idea, if you have the fibre optics then if the leds fail you don't have to take the neck apart to fix it. Just the issues of attaching the fibre optics through the neck (although fibre connections are pretty common for comms) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 Got a bit more done today, Headstock cut started to redo the taper and took some of the bulk off the back of the neck aswell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I’d the polycarbonate still there then Jim? I can’t tell from the last pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Pea Turgh said: I’d the polycarbonate still there then Jim? I can’t tell from the last pic. No, it got swapped out for oak at the top of page 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Woodinblack said: No, it got swapped out for oak at the top of page 4 I read it but I missed it! Must be time to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: No, it got swapped out for oak at the top of page 4 No Woodinblack is right it didn't adhere well at all I probably should have used a different glue but I swapped it for Oak instead 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Jimothey said: Got a bit more done today, Headstock cut started to redo the taper and took some of the bulk off the back of the neck aswell That's looking really smart 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: That's looking really smart Thanks mate I've just got to finish doing the tapers then I'm ready to glue the wings on 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBass Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 23 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: That's looking really smart Yes, impressive stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, BrunoBass said: Yes, impressive stuff! Thanks but I had a bit of an accident today, routers and hay-fever don't mix! half way through routing the neck blank my eyes started streaming and had a sneezing fit and before I could switch the router off I nicked the neck near the nut 🤬 So the only thing is I can think to get over it is if I carefully rout the neck 6mm thinner on each side (which is the width of the Oak strip wood then glue it on) Edited June 20, 2018 by Jimothey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Jimothey said: Thanks but I had a bit of an accident today, routers and hay-fever don't mix! half way through routing the neck blank my eyes started streaming and had a sneezing fit and before I could switch the router off I nicked the neck near the nut 🤬 So the only thing is I can think to get over it is if I carefully rout the neck 6mm thinner on each side (which is the width of the Oak strip wood then glue it on) Ouch. Having allergic rhinitis, I sympathise. When a sneeze spasm seizes attention from what you are doing it can be awkward at best. Are you sure the answer is to thin the neck even more? I know you are to glue on a strip but are you confident that the full strength of the neck would be restored? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Are you sure the answer is to thin the neck even more? I know you are to glue on a strip but are you confident that the full strength of the neck would be restored? That is my main concern but I can't see any other way at the moment? Maybe when I radii (I think that's the right word?) the neck most of it might be removed? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jimothey said: That is my main concern but I can't see any other way at the moment? Maybe when I radii (I think that's the right word?) the neck most of it might be removed? 🤔 If I was building this for someone else, I would fix it - except I would use 2mm binding strip, just trimming the two sides enough to eliminate the gouge. But the chances of c*****g up the trims either side is actually quite high. So if this was for my own use, I would leave it as it is. The fretboard covers the gouge from the front view, the curve of the neck carve take almost all of it away and you are left with a shallow d scoop up to the bottom edge of the fretboard - which is pretty to easy to fill. Edited June 20, 2018 by Andyjr1515 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, Andyjr1515 said: If I was building this for someone else, I would fix it - except I would use 2mm binding strip, just trimming the two sides enough to eliminate the gouge. But the chances of c*****g up the trims either side is actually quite high. So if this was for my own use, I would leave it as it is. The fretboard covers the gouge from the front view, the curve of the neck curve take almost all of it away and you are left with a shallow d scoop up yto the bottom edge of the fretboard - which is pretty to easy to fill. I think that's what I'll do as it is only for me As per usual I'm overthinking it!! 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 I really liked the sound of a binding so I've decided to bind the neck and headstock with some Oak veneer I've got Also it's covered the discrepancy which is a bonus I'm going to leave it all clamped up till I'm back in work on Friday the start shaping and sanding everything 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 That sounds like a plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: That sounds like a plan. I haven't decided if I am being very brave or very stupid as yet 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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