Bluewine Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: Funnily enough 49 was the year when my gigging level shot right up, I have been consistently gigging in the 5 years since then. I'm 65 and gigging more than ever. I just happened to join the right band with the right infrastructure 7 years ago. Opportunities with bands with consistent bookings are hard to come by regardless of where you live. Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Houghton Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Hi Scott Sent you a PM on here. Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieMillsBass Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The YouTube stuff seems to be a more common complaint these days, but if I remember correctly there was some sort of change to the Youtube algorythm lately that prompted a need for longer videos to keep your visibility up or something like that. Anyway, I've been a member for the past 3 years. I've learned a lot. I would go as far as to say Scott's 'Harmonic Layering' course on there is the best thing you can do to learn about harmony aside from a one to one teacher. Even then some one to one teachers are awful. The other thing he really drives home is the need to actually put the work in if you really want to get better - which is the thing which has probably had the most impact on my playing. I never had a structured practice routine until I joined, now I do.......... So yeh, I would recommend him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamg67 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 04/06/2018 at 19:54, Bluewine said: IMO, Scott is only for guys willing and able to do the hard work. This. SBL is well worth it if you've got the time to make the most of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorturedSaints Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, adamg67 said: This. SBL is well worth it if you've got the time to make the most of it. +1 I joined right at the start and when I came to renew, I'd had pretty much zero value out of it due to lack of time. So I didn't renew and wished Scott all the best with his venture. I also decided that I'm not the type of person that learns from watching videos. It's worth watching the videos on YouTube to find out if Scott's voice grates on you. Also, it's worth noting that you should download the videos etc as you won't have access to them if you cancel your membership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I had been considering joining for a while and this thread renewed my interest so I joined up last week. I'm finding it very helpful so far and have already watched a number of lessons. Very well laid out web site and the tutors including Scott are very likeable and easy to follow. Downloaded some of the podcasts too to listen to in my car. Like has been said above you need to put the time in to get your moneys worth and I'm fortunate now that my wife is out most evenings so once the kids are in bed I can have an hour on my bass every night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 The videos look good (the ones I’ve seen). As someone who was a teacher before, results are all about the effort you put in. It’s a platitude, but it’s absolutely true. You can’t get the most out of these things until you’re doing one or two hours of solid, focused practice every day at least. And simply watching a video once isn’t enough to internalise a concept. The only slight gripe I have with the courses promoted by some bigger agencies and organisations is that they sell a dream that doesn’t exist. There are few studio jobs anymore, and there are a whole host of name session players already on the books. Touring musicians aren’t as in demand either so we’re churning out more and more pro-level players with few opportunities for them to make a living. It’s not Scott’s fault and this isn’t a criticism levelled at him as his courses are targeted at players of all ages and abilities, but apart from the odd success story I’ve met lots of incredible musicians that haven’t found a route into the industry and we’re training hundreds more. Anyway, a lesson with a pro player in Bristol where I am is £35. That’s money well spent. If you’re in the sticks or haven’t got a great teacher nearby, then I think this is a worthwhile substitute. But the first opportunity you get head out and play with others, because we really don’t need any more bedroom virtuosos who can’t hold down a groove. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseus Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I think Scott's lessons are excellent. They work very well for me, and I've been a lifer for a couple of years now. Money well spent IMO but, like anything else, it won't suit everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 16/06/2018 at 11:20, Burns-bass said: The videos look good (the ones I’ve seen). As someone who was a teacher before, results are all about the effort you put in. It’s a platitude, but it’s absolutely true. You can’t get the most out of these things until you’re doing one or two hours of solid, focused practice every day at least. And simply watching a video once isn’t enough to internalise a concept. The only slight gripe I have with the courses promoted by some bigger agencies and organisations is that they sell a dream that doesn’t exist. There are few studio jobs anymore, and there are a whole host of name session players already on the books. Touring musicians aren’t as in demand either so we’re churning out more and more pro-level players with few opportunities for them to make a living. It’s not Scott’s fault and this isn’t a criticism levelled at him as his courses are targeted at players of all ages and abilities, but apart from the odd success story I’ve met lots of incredible musicians that haven’t found a route into the industry and we’re training hundreds more. Anyway, a lesson with a pro player in Bristol where I am is £35. That’s money well spent. If you’re in the sticks or haven’t got a great teacher nearby, then I think this is a worthwhile substitute. But the first opportunity you get head out and play with others, because we really don’t need any more bedroom virtuosos who can’t hold down a groove. This is very true, and not something many players find out until it’s a bit too late. I got out of the “industry” when I saw how things were going (no radio or jingle jobs anymore, major London studios closing down one after the other). However, I believe by not needing to earn income from playing music, you’re freed up to a) be able to afford decent gear and b) pursue musical excellence and play music with musicians you like. One of the worst things about being a “pro” player was the awful novelty gigs, playing styles and genres I didn’t much care for and having to rely on teaching in order to survive, rather than because I really wanted to teach. To his credit, Scott certainly has a great deal of enthusiasm for playing and music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, FDC484950 said: This is very true, and not something many players find out until it’s a bit too late. I got out of the “industry” when I saw how things were going (no radio or jingle jobs anymore, major London studios closing down one after the other). However, I believe by not needing to earn income from playing music, you’re freed up to a) be able to afford decent gear and b) pursue musical excellence and play music with musicians you like. One of the worst things about being a “pro” player was the awful novelty gigs, playing styles and genres I didn’t much care for and having to rely on teaching in order to survive, rather than because I really wanted to teach. To his credit, Scott certainly has a great deal of enthusiasm for playing and music! That’s a great way to look at it. if Scott’s courses inspire you to pick up the bass, then they’re doing the right thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutSpoon Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I've been a member since the beginning - massive resource of knowledge. If you want to learn how to play bass, get better or get great, there a course. If you just want to noodle around - no point joining. If you are serious about getting better, there isn't a better online resource. In my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 17 hours ago, OutSpoon said: I've been a member since the beginning - massive resource of knowledge. If you want to learn how to play bass, get better or get great, there a course. If you just want to noodle around - no point joining. If you are serious about getting better, there isn't a better online resource. In my opinion. Very true. If all you want is to ask others for TABs and know just enough to busk your way through a few covers and, then SBL isn't the place for you. TABs is something that simply doesn't get a mention on SBL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigyin Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 06/06/2018 at 16:15, Grangur said: hey @thebigyin for theory, check out http://www.studybass.com . It's free and there is some really useful info there. FOC too! Thanks for the link Grangur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgullcharlie Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 @devinebass I'd love to signup and lifetime seems a good deal and in a year I might have the cash. HOWEVER... I have piles and piles of free tabs for every genre of music and if I just spend a few years learning all of those, surely that's the way to go as its all about songs at the end of the day? Dont get me wrong I have the discipline and devotion to work through courses and lessons - its just that songs are the real thing. I spent my first year of playing doing "learn XYZ bass" (replace XYZ with funk, muted grooves, walking sloth, scratchy barnacles, turf and surf etc) type of books and it did nothing for me like simply learning songs. I would love to hear your thoughts on this Scott, but apologies if it puts you on the spot!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, cgullcharlie said: ...its all about songs at the end of the day?... Not a bad way of going about things, but maybe there's a distinction between 'learning songs' and 'learning music'..? I'm a drummer, and spent a long time learning and practising the rudiments of drumming (hours at a time on just snare drum stuff, or syncopation, or tom rolls, or cymbal swells etc...). It then became possible to play almost any 'song', even if I'd never heard it before, or pick up on the 'hook' parts if there was a specific drum part. For what I was doing at the time (variety drumming, and depping...), it was far more useful than songs, and indispensable for creating my own drum parts for original material. There's no 'song' to copy when one is writing the song oneself..! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Your dilema, @Allaboutthebass is a FAQ on SBL. There's tons of learning material there. These days they're categorised. You can start with the Beginner lesson about bass familiarisation and go on ... Bass 101: The Anatomy of The Bass & Getting Started Bass Guitar Foundations - The Definitive Guide Functional Theory for Bassists Vol 1 Essential Groove Techniques Technique Deep Dive for Bass Each of these courses, alone, consist of 10x 30 minute lessons. If you study each lesson in each course. The above courses could, if you really work on it, as you should, could take you over a year. Then you can go onto the next stages with intermediate stuff: Harmonic Layering - Arpeggios, Chord Tones & Scales A Masterclass in Time and Groove Development The Bass Line Series: 10 Classic Bass Lines The list goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, cgullcharlie said: I have piles and piles of free tabs for every genre of music and if I just spend a few years learning all of those, surely that's the way to go as its all about songs at the end of the day? Dont get me wrong I have the discipline and devotion to work through courses and lessons - its just that songs are the real thing. @devinebass won't be stumped in the slightest. Your collection of TABs is fine, if all you ever want to do is twist and mangle your fingers to re-create some other bedroom-warrior's interpretation of a great bassline. If you want to add your own fills, and chromatic runs etc., then it helps to understand what influence these will have on the overall feel. If you're playing a song and you're mainly playing A, D F#, G, then it throws in some Fs in there too. Isn't is useful to know why? If your front man is hogging the mic and talking away to the punters, isn't it cool to keep playing a quiet bass line in the background, to keep the vibe going? Pros do that. But if you don't have a TAB for that, what will you do? If you're putting together a montage and songs are the same rhythm, but in a different key, but you want to "walk" from one to the next is it better to do this, playing notes that fall into both Keys? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmjos Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I've just rejoined. I had a membership in the early days and didn't get enough out of it. Now I feel it has much more depth and I can access it. I learned to read as a kid and just forgot everything. I'm just completing the theory and sight reading lessons done by Philip Mann and its really working for me. I am very grateful for that. I work with some real muso's who are very patient with me but this is making a real difference. Well done to Scott. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) I'm seriously thinking of joining mainly to learn some theory. I'm totally self taught & have been playing 39 years now,can play pretty much anything I put my mind to but when it comes to writing bass lines or fills or even a solo I struggle to play anything new/interesting. Frankly I'm pretty bored with my own playing,the same old licks time after time,it feels like I hit a wall years ago. I do get regular compliments on my bass playing at gigs etc' but I feel frustrated with myself so maybe it's time for some decent tuition. Edited October 22, 2018 by artisan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxos10 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I joined SBL a couple of years back and took the lifetime offer when it came knowing I was retiring in 2019. As things have gone along I will actually be finishing work next week (yeah) so my use of the academy will grow out of all proportions. It will be my excuse to the wife for not completing my daily chores (if you her of any husband beating cases in Staffordshire you will know who it is) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 That seems about the best reason, to get you out of a rut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxos10 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 +1 You've hit the nail on the head Woodinblack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Basschat could do worse, than finding a few members who are both capable and willing to film a regular tutorial to put up on here. A video version of the podcast which incorporates tutorials? There's enough decent players here to make that happen? @ped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayman said: Basschat could do worse, than finding a few members who are both capable and willing to film a regular tutorial to put up on here. A video version of the podcast which incorporates tutorials? There's enough decent players here to make that happen? @ped? I think that’s a great idea 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I'll stick to what I know - forums - not much else - but happy to provide the facility if anyone gets a group together! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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