jebroad Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I’ve decided to finally do some pwoper vacuum bagged carbon fiber lovelyness. This is a 25” midget that I’ve started to build. I intend on using a though neck wrapped in carbon fiber and vacuum bagged. The fretboard will be glued after the carbon fiber and will finish after the 24th fret rather than my original ideas of it going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Excellent, following this!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Really interestd in this. Great stuff, @jebroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Cutting edge stuff. Go J E! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 Cats and string Height, not a bad evening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Look like a whisker above 2mm at the 12th fret 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, ped said: Look like a whisker above 2mm at the 12th fret Indeed, if I whisker is .5mm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Some progress!! Neck and neck template roughly cut and carbon fiber and vacuum utensils arriving tomorrow Edited June 21, 2018 by jebroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 9 hours ago, jebroad said: Some progress!! Neck and neck template roughly cut and carbon fiber and vacuum utensils arriving tomorrow It's getting exciting. Would MDF work with a CF wrap I wonder? It's probably not great under compression across the "grain". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: It's getting exciting. Would MDF work with a CF wrap I wonder? It's probably not great under compression across the "grain". It probably would, I’m considering making some bamboo laminate with epoxy and 20mm bamboo strips, if dried right they’re stronger than ebony (and also sustainable) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, jebroad said: It probably would, I’m considering making some bamboo laminate with epoxy and 20mm bamboo strips, if dried right they’re stronger than ebony (and also sustainable) I hear good things about bamboo laminates. Also, @Christine is considering using Rocklite for the fingerboard on a build. The two together ought to earn some eco-geek points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubis Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 This is a very cool project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, rubis said: This is a very cool project Why thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 A change of plan! As suggested by the wonderful @SpondonBassed I’m going to make the thru neck from MDF and wrap that in carbon fiber. I’m also tempted by acrylic wings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I asked this question of Enfield/Sims basses but they didn’t bother to respond: Does wrapping a wooden core in carbon have the same benefit of a full composite neck? Will it move/need a truss rod? As far as I know some carbon necks have a different material in the core. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ped said: I asked this question of Enfield/Sims basses but they didn’t bother to respond: Does wrapping a wooden core in carbon have the same benefit of a full composite neck? Will it move/need a truss rod? As far as I know some carbon necks have a different material in the core. The benefit is very similar there’s a one piece carbon fiber bass build on talk bass that I’ll hunt for in the morning. The method for a full composite one piece carbon neck is this: Make a plug, make a mold from it, lay up 4 layers of CF in it, take it out, if using a truss make something to hold it and adhere it inside the carbon neck shell, fill the hollow neck with a poly based foam and glue a fretboard. The only structural difference between this and what I’m doing with MDF is the core. As MDF is a stableish material it won’t move much and due to the carbon reinforcements the truss is only needed if you want to fine tune your relief. The full carbon neck (as long as the same amount of layers of fabric is used) is the same strength but much lighter due to the poly foam core. This also only needs a truss for fine relief adjustments. In short, there’s not much difference apart from weight Edited June 27, 2018 by jebroad Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Here’s the link to the talkbass post: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/headless-full-carbon-fiber-bass.1064945/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Great, thanks. That’s what I thought - I remember seeing a carbon Basslab bass which had a foam core, iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 7 hours ago, jebroad said: Here’s the link to the talkbass post: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/headless-full-carbon-fiber-bass.1064945/ Fascinating thread - the one above and this one you are doing here, @jebroad Continuing to watch with great interest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 hours ago, jebroad said: the wonderful @SpondonBassed Aw shucks. 'T were nowt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honza992 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 ooh very interested in this. Weight, or lack thereof, is right up my street.... Carry on😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChunkyMunky Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 This is far too cool. I love it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChunkyMunky Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Over a year later, it's still really inspiring to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebroad Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, ChunkyMunky said: Over a year later, it's still really inspiring to see. I’m a master of timely projects. Coincidentally, I’ve just made two new iterations of a headless version of this design. Maybe this time I’ll get round to the whole finishing the project thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard R Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It has to be done by the 2020 Midlands Bass Bash, because it sounds very cool indeed and we all want to see and play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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