Bassassin Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 We're all pretty familiar with cheapo Fender copies turning up with wrinkly, badly positioned and frequently incorrect Fender logos slapped on the headstock - this is a new one on me: a low/midrange 70s MIJ Jazz (almost certainly originally a Columbus) that's had its logo blatantly sanded off and a Greco decal slapped over the top. I didn't even know fake Greco logos existed! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Made-In-japan-70s-Jazz-Greco-Electric-bass-needs-attention-Project-Relic-MIJ/323345538867 Don't be fooled - this is entirely different to any Greco Jazz copy, if you know these instruments, not a product of either of the factories (Fujigen & Matsumoku) who built Grecos in the 70s. This bass is identical to the Columbus J copies that still turn up regularly and that many of us will have had experience of - OK but not great - and not the quality, or value of genuine Greco equivalents. Will fire the seller a message to point out what it's not - but I daresay they're quite aware already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Cant see the point of making a copy/fake of a cheapo shitty bass in the first place....good spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Grecos were excellent basses. Dont be confused with the likes of Columbus etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Thunderbird said: Cant see the point of making a copy/fake of a cheapo shitty bass in the first place....good spot I see you know not of what you speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bassassin said: I see you know not of what you speak. I do but I did not put it very well what I mean is I can see why people would copy Fenders and Ricks ETC but dont understand why they would copy a low end bass with a stinky poo copy I wasnt referring to the Greco as the stinky poo bass as I had a Greco P and it was a good bass that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Yup Grecos keep going up in price too Edited July 13, 2018 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) I messaged him too and told him to be careful about selling fakes, and he's just told me he's relisted it. I also said it may or not be a Columbus, but dont quote me since we dont really know - so what does he do ? Edited July 13, 2018 by fleabag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibody Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Thunderbird said: I do but I did not put it very well what I mean is I can see why people would copy Fenders and Ricks ETC but dont understand why they would copy a low end bass with a stinky poo copy I wasnt referring to the Greco as the stinky poo bass as I had a Greco P and it was a good bass that make sense? Because its easier to sell a chinese £60 P or J for £200 by claiming its a Greco than trying to pass one off as a £1k fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, fleabag said: I messaged him too and told him to be careful about selling fakes, and he's just told me he's relisted it. I also said it may or not be a Columbus, but dont quote me since we dont really know - so what does he do ? I sent him a link to pics of an identical Columbus - he also messaged me back saying he'll re-list it. 7 hours ago, Thunderbird said: I do but I did not put it very well what I mean is I can see why people would copy Fenders and Ricks ETC but dont understand why they would copy a low end bass with a stinky poo copy Because Grecos were anything but low - end. From the mid 70s onward they were replica-standard, and the instruments that convinced Fender to set up Fender Japan - in partnership with Greco's brand owner. It's widely held that the last-run Greco Fender copies from 1982 were sold badged as Fender & Squier JVs - which are nudging at 4 figures these days. A good late 70s/80s Greco could easily be a £400 - £500 bass these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Yes, i was going to say £200 for a Greco Jazz would be a bass i'd snap up in the blink of an eyeball Definately at least double or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 It was actually this thread which motivated me to post this: https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/327234-nbd-1976-greco-precision-bass/ @umcoo picked up a '76 Greco P from Japan for about £200 inc import duties etc - a minor project but a ridiculous bargain. The thread turned into a love-in for quality MIJ P copies. I wouldn't swap my 1980-ish Daion P, or my CSL Jazz for anything with a "proper" badge on the headstock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 That was a steal. I've never seen a Greco selling that cheap over here, well not in recent years, but there's always exceptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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