A.G.E.N.T.E. Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I´ve been listening to Sons of Apollo - Psychotic Symphony album, and i was wondering what kind of effect is Billy Sheehan using along with his drive? It makes the bass "roar". Is it some king of envelope flter? Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think that's just the over tones from his usual drive sound. that bass is very grindy. He's using a Helix these days - Line 6 modelled Billy's own Pearce Preamp to get the helix model dead right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.G.E.N.T.E. Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 hours ago, fretmeister said: I think that's just the over tones from his usual drive sound. that bass is very grindy. He's using a Helix these days - Line 6 modelled Billy's own Pearce Preamp to get the helix model dead right. Thanks for you input fretmeister. There´s some sort of a "auauaua" going on. 😅 I lack better words to descrive it. Is that what you mean by overtones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbandit599 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think that's Billy's grindy tone mostly, but there might be a bit of extra modulation in there - maybe a bit of chorus or something. I got one of the EBS Billy Sheehan Deluxe pedals a while back and it's great for that grindy tone - never had so much gain on tap, but somehow still controllable. This'd be my tip for a first pedal solution to try. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Definitely something extra on there... Almost sounds like a subtle talk box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 20 hours ago, A.G.E.N.T.E. said: I´ve been listening to Sons of Apollo - Psychotic Symphony album, and i was wondering what kind of effect is Billy Sheehan using along with his drive? It makes the bass "roar". Is it some king of envelope flter? Any ideas? Actually I agree. Stick some decent cans on and you can hear modulation on the bass tone. At first, I thought it was Derek on keys playing in unison. He’s tighter than a tight thing playing and uses lots of mods on his keys tones... but if you listen to the bass notes at the very end there’s definitely a flange like effect going on in there. Interestingly I think I have the same on my Helix for one of the songs in one of my band sets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Yeah. Definitely something extra happening. Reminds me of a more subtle version of Tim Commerford's bass sound on Cochise by Audioslave. Some kind of Phaser/Flanger might get you in the ball park... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyuuga Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Higgie said: Yeah. Definitely something extra happening. Reminds me of a more subtle version of Tim Commerford's bass sound on Cochise by Audioslave. Some kind of Phaser/Flanger might get you in the ball park... Exactly what I thought about at first. "Cochise" bass tone is somewhat similar and Tim. C uses a Wah pedal together with his distortion pedal on that one. As for Billy's tone in this one, I'd definitely shoot for a Wah first. I just tried it on my setup (using a VT Bass DI as the Overdrive and a MXR Envelope Filter) and it definitely ROARS like Sheehan on this track - not quite the same obviously but it's there. What seems essential is to: a) either get a Wah pedal with a "Dry" feature so that it doesn't completely suck your low end (like the MXR one); b) split your signal so that you get the Overdriven Wah sound while retaining the massive low end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Yep. The MSD Wah has both modern/classic modes (modern having some clean blended in) which is great, or an Xotic XBlender would do the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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