EBS_freak Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, wateroftyne said: I have no idea what you're talking about. *cough* Tough gig - knowing that the guy on the piano can play your instrument better than you can.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) I thought there was some pretty stunning arrangements on the Prom show (whoever the other arranger(s) were - He didn't do them all, I don't think). The Orchestra were great, but that particular Dutch Orchestra always are. Although I am not keen on his voice on certain tunes (hit & miss at times) Jacob Collier has some fantastic ideas regarding Harmony and Rhythm. Certainly a musician who knows what he is doing. For me it was pretty enjoyable, with some decent performances from all involved. Jules Buckley was on top form as well... Edited July 22, 2018 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Always good to see Collier cropping up at these jazz events. Even at the end of this masterpiece. (OK, he's in the audience doing some weird clap at the end) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 What a great bass sound that guy had on I Wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: ...this masterpiece... Masterpiece indeed..! Thanks for posting; that is Good Stuff. Lenny's Dad might like it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceebass Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Whether you're a fan or not, check out June Lee's transcriptions of JC's stuff. Amazing works of scholarship & musicality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This guy was doin' summat similar back in the mid 80s wouldn't you agree? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Barking Spiders said: This guy was doin' summat similar back in the mid 80s wouldn't you agree? ... with the added bonus of being quite considerably shorter in duration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 @Dad3353 - I had to check which thread I was in. There seems to be a lot of spooky parallels going on around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, EBS_freak said: @Dad3353 - I had to check which thread I was in. There seems to be a lot of spooky parallels going on around these parts. Yes, I believe you're right; that last video belongs in those other 'debate' threads, not here..! I could move it, but maybe the Poster had something in mind that I've not captured..? Wouldn't be the first time..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Yes, I believe you're right; that last video belongs in those other 'debate' threads, not here..! I could move it, but maybe the Poster had something in mind that I've not captured..? Wouldn't be the first time..! It's pandemic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHM Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I though his explanation of layering chords, making chords that utilise natural harmonics, and how you can move harmony towards cadences whilst creating melody was really well explained. I haven't been to a music conservatoire where I expect this is all second nature, but to someone brought up on figuring out for myself, I learned more from him than I've done for a ling time. Trouble is, I now know I'm a worse bass player that I thought I was yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathy Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: This guy was doin' summat similar back in the mid 80s wouldn't you agree? Ed Sheeran - the early years. I actually bought the single of this & 'me and my mini' in the 80s. A massive influence on my bass playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 21/07/2018 at 17:16, Burns-bass said: I really dislike it, but then again, Quincy Jones (who is a genius) considers him to be one too. He also plays with guys like Herbie Hancock who consider him an equal. Kid must be doing something right to be working with legends like that. Quincy Jones former legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I lasted 5 mins into the BBC4 show. Pretentious twoddle. And mate, instead of leaping between your keyboards for effect, why not put your synth ON your piano? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbob Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Some nice playing from everyone here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The lad's an exceptionally talented multi-instrumentalist for sure but it's the end result wot counts and I'm afraid based on these vids it goes up to 1 and a half. A personal thing but I heartily dislike jazz in all it's forms, bar a bit of Django. I thought the take on I Wish was blimmin awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Rather p!$$es over Ed Sheeran's loop pedal, doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 22/07/2018 at 10:07, Dad3353 said: Lenny's Dad might like it, too. I think that unlikely... Mainly because: a) he's no longer with us b) his idea of musical heaven was Chris Barber, or Sidney Bechet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said: Rather p!$$es over Ed Sheeran's loop pedal, doesn't it? But Ed is slightly better at writing songs people love and buy in their millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, wateroftyne said: But Ed is slightly better at writing songs people love and buy in their millions. True, and I know it's a thread which has already been flogged to death! All I shall say on that front is that the Viz cartoon "Ed Sheeran and The Fountain of Popularity" resonated quite strongly with my own feelings on the man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said: Rather p!$$es over Ed Sheeran's loop pedal, doesn't it? and not forgetting his tiny guitar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said: True, and I know it's a thread which has already been flogged to death! All I shall say on that front is that the Viz cartoon "Ed Sheeran and The Fountain of Popularity" resonated quite strongly with my own feelings on the man... I’m not a fan either, but I’m not sure he cares what we think 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: But Ed is slightly better at writing songs people love and buy in their millions. re-writing existing songs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: re-writing existing songs... Which is what the history of western music is based on so...... It actually makes me sad when a thread about an incredible talent (who is 23 years old for goodness sake, he was doing Berklee masterclasses at 20!) gets lambasted by people who: A) Don't like Jazz B) Watch 5 minutes of one program If you don't like Jazz, don't comment unless you're actively appreciating the technical ability and hard work someone has put in. Letting people know you actively don't like the subject your being negative about doesn't really help the conversation. "God I hate driving......this <well spec'd, reasonably priced, popular> car is awful isn't it!". If you do like Jazz, but don't like seeing how someone attempts to entertain a sold out Albert Hall audience, dig a little deeper: These are bands that he has curated, who have come together to play his songs and arrangements, he's the band-leader. So yes, they are obviously contributing a lot, but they wouldn't be in that particular gig if it weren't for Jacob, he's creating jobs innit. Si 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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