fleabag Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Might be worth a stab chaps and chapesses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Don’t broadcast it, I want to increase my chances of winning! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Thanks mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) One clarification to Scott's power ratings for the 0.5K amp. He gives this as: 500W at 8 ohms and 700W at 4 ohms. Those are the peak ratings (and actually it's 625W at 4 ohms) If you're using the much more industry standard 'continuous' = RMS(?) then the figures are half those i.e. circa 250W at 8 ohms and 312W at 4 ohms. Edited July 29, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 And all the specs are rather vague : Power Output: 8 Ohms: (Continuous Power ‐ 253W @ .13% THD, 365W @1% THD), (Peak 506W @ .13% THD, 730W @1% THD) 4 Ohms: (Continuous Power ‐ 312W @ .13% THD, 702W @1% THD), (Peak 625W @ .13% THD, 1404W @1% THD) Power Amplifier: Class D with Switch‐Mode Power Supply Pre‐Amp: Low noise, all analog, solid state Input: ¼” Phone with switchable attenuation and rotary gain control Input Level Indicator: Signal level and Clip LEDs (green/red) EQ: 4 Band Switchable Shelving Bass and Treble with selectable Hi‐Pass frequencies. Low‐Mid and Hi ‐Mid ‐Variable Gain, Band Pass EQ with selectable frequency / bandwidth options Master Volume: Rotary Control Line In: 1/8″ mini jack Headphone Out: Stereo ¼” Phone jack Mute Switch: mini toggle AC Mains: 85‐132V, 195‐264V, 45‐65 Hz, 1000VA (Worldwide usage) AC Mains Indicator: Blue LED EFX Loop: Series Direct Out: 600 Ohm Balanced, XLR, Pre/Post, Ground Lift and Level control Speaker Output: 1 x Neutrik Combi‐Connectors Chassis: Aircraft grade aluminum w/removable rubber feet Rack Ears: (Optional) Size: (H x W x D in.) 3.3 x 15.1 x 8 (inches) Weight: 5.0 lbs. No RMS indication, but continuous power. No indication of the frequency used for the power announced. No preamp frequencies indications, nor their boost/cut capabilities. Very American behaviour. And it's getting worse for the box : TF112 Specifications 1 x 12” proprietary Neodymium speaker built by Eminence® HF driver (3500-20,000 Hz) 80° conical horn 300 watts peak handling Custom crossover with peak protection and HF Attenuation 2 x NL2 Combo connectors Baltic Birch Dado and Rabbet Joint Construction 8 ohms Freq. Resp. 35Hz – 16kHz Metal handles, metal corners, rubber feet Acoustically transparent cloth grille 22 oz. sharkskin vinyl H 14 7/8 x W 19 x D 18 Weight: 36.2 lbs. Made in the USA Here no pressure or sound level indicated, no indication if it's a bass reflex construction, 300 Watts peak handling means absolutely nothing. Sorry guys, but the technical informations are lacking a lot of precision. Again very American approach... That said, Scott is always a delight to watch, so much fun in the way he is talking and acting. And that Fodera looks gorgeous and expensive... 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 I dont like any of it , including the bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I shall keenly await a TC-like witchhunt about the fudged power ratings... 😃 If I won it, it'd all be up for sale on here the day it arrived...still, it's a lot of cash... 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 The bass and the head are the wrong colours - they won't match your eyes so if I were you I won't be bothering... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 There is no way I'd ever be able to buy a Fodera so I'd be thrilled to win that. I'd keep it and gig the crap out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, fretmeister said: ...and gig the crap out of it. Foderas have crap in them..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Foderas have crap in them..? They'll have tons of crap note choices if I'm playing it!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Assuming that folk signed for the all the 'additional entry options' = 60 entries apiece, there have been already 6,500 entries so far...I'm definitely not feeling that lucky, apart from the fact that my luck's in on one important point: I'm not GAS'ing for a Fodera or a Trickfish rig 😂 On a more serious note, the TF amps do have quite a fan club over in the US; however the fact that they are using a non industry standard measure of power output (peak rather than RMS) which is a little misleading, particularly as their amps are labelled .5k and 1k was a let down when I found that out...(whereas most other amp makers play it with a 'straight bat' e.g. the GM Magellan 800m is 800W RMS at 4 ohms and the DG M900 is 900W RMS at 4 ohms etc) Edited July 29, 2018 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I wouldn’t call the TF misleading, its a name, they could call it a .506k, they could call it Nigel after my uncle, but they clearly state it’s peak and RMS capabilities in very clear detail on their web site which is easily found. Does the EQ, pre-amp and feature set speak to you yes or no, then work out how much power you need - job done, esp if it’s a freebie. I suppose you could argue the Aguilar Hammers your tone, but I guarantee the TE small amp does not help Santa make Xmas pressies in the North Pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I don't think I've ever heard a Mike Pope preamp in person. I'd like to though! Ideally in the bass rather than the amp - but either way would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 An old adage about teeth and horses springs to mind, folks...FFS it's free gear!!! Rather than slag it off, if you don't want it, don't enter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Cuzzie said: I wouldn’t call the TF misleading, its a name, they could call it a .506k, they could call it Nigel after my uncle, but they clearly state it’s peak and RMS capabilities in very clear detail on their web site which is easily found. Does the EQ, pre-amp and feature set speak to you yes or no, then work out how much power you need - job done, esp if it’s a freebie. I suppose you could argue the Aguilar Hammers your tone, but I guarantee the TE small amp does not help Santa make Xmas pressies in the North Pole Look 8 posts before yours, I've put the specs that are on their website and there's absolutely no mention of the RMS power... That said, the Mike Pope Flexcore 4 bands preamp is terrific and certainly the most transparent you will ever find. I had three in three different basses and still have one in one of my basses : really great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 What’s the secret code bit in the entry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 @Hellzero continuous power is RMS and peak is peak so they do mention it same still applies tonig you like it’s musicality to your instrument and playing style, genre etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Sorry mate, but continuous power is absolutely not RMS power : check your books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Happy to be wrong!!! just about to check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 52 minutes ago, TheGreek said: An old adage about teeth and horses springs to mind, folks...FFS it's free gear!!! Rather than slag it off, if you don't want it, don't enter... Sensible marketing on the part of Scott. He's probably got the gear for free. The makers get a load of free advertising and Scott gets 10,000+ folk (how many man hours has he got folk to commit in total?) to fill in application forms with their contact details/ sign up to his trial course. No such thing as a free lunch. Besides it's a D class amp and you've never knowingly not slagged off a D class amp have you Mick? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) @HellzeroSo I took RMS to be Root Mean square of the power an amp can put out or a cab can handle, which broadly speaking should give a continuos power level an amp can pop out. Obviously this is worked out from the peak power that an amp can put out, and the peak is normally put out for a period of time. This ‘average’ figure is based upon a sine wave sometimes about 1kHZ where the signal does not crap out, or the circuit does not overheat. As far as I know the THD stated relates to total harmonic distortion where the wave form gets clipped and hence relates to continuous power handling before it craps out I know that there are different ways of calculating an RMS. So very simply in my mind without knowing it all a true RMS possibly relates to the power a signal can be replicated for a reliably without the above happening. as ever I am happy to learn and if I am wrong please tell me, especially if I have over simplified it. i’ll have A look up as well, but any pointers to the correct sources would be cool Edited July 29, 2018 by Cuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: ...any pointers to the correct sources would be cool Be wary of what you wish for ... Understanding Power Amplifier Power Ratings ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Cheers @Dad3353, I certainly know what my holiday homework is now, let’s see if I was massively far off with my over simplified interpretation for my tiny mind...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Remind me why are we even discussing this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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