Rich Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 02/08/2018 at 10:36, ped said: Hated the old ones. Rattly and the nut comes loose after about ten mins no matter how tight you screw it on. Always thought the design was a bit clunky. Loctite 242 is your friend. I take them off every few years, clean them a bit and add a fresh dab of threadlocker when I put them back on. Never had a loose nut in 32 years. <--- that's my smug face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I had the strap part wear through the strapbutton, and screw, enough for it to snap right off the bass. Fortunately leaving enough screw to be grabbed by pliers and removed. It did take 25 years for that to happen mind, so I wasn't too miffed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 The key with Schaller straplocks is not to put them on the strap. Put the strap on the button and then put the straplock on over the top of the strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The59Sound Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I've used Dunlops for years with no problems - when I say no problems, that means not having to do constant maintenance either. My guitarist has had constant problems with his Schallers, pretty much every gig having to tighten the screw. Now using Dunlops with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastodon2 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I wasn't aware there were any "design flaws" with Schallers or that they needed any special technique to fit. I've been using them on my instruments for years, just screw on and forget. Maybe every few weeks I've check the nuts as I'm picking my bass on and they never seem to loosen noticeably. That said, I've never heard of anyone having any problems with Dunlops either so you can pick whatever you prefer I suppose, I've just never been a fan of the aesthetics of the Duncans with that big "dog water bowl" arrangement they have, but functionally I've found both to work just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) if all straps had two holes like the Comfort Strap, there's be no market for strap locks. Genius solution. Strap.htm Edited August 6, 2018 by bazzbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, bazzbass said: if all straps had two holes like the Comfort Strap, there's be no market for strap locks. Genius solution. Strap.htm Not really - becuase the two holes still get worn as the strap is taken on and off. From experience, as I used to use Comfort Strapps for some time, the wear is not as quick as it may be on a traditional strap... but they do stretch and whilst the risk of a bass dropping off the strap is reduced, the risk is definitely still there on older, worn straps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWH Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: Not really - becuase the two holes still get worn as the strap is taken on and off. From experience, as I used to use Comfort Strapps for some time, the wear is not as quick as it may be on a traditional strap... but they do stretch and whilst the risk of a bass dropping off the strap is reduced, the risk is definitely still there on older, worn straps. Well done that man, i put the ten mill hole in, but then use a sewing machine to sew criss-crossed either side of that hole so it cant spread, i like the thread lock idea, thanks people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, bazzbass said: if all straps had two holes like the Comfort Strap, there's be no market for strap locks. Genius solution. Strap.htm I use a Comfort Strapp with Schallers fitted Been using Schallers since about 1984 and never had any problems with 'em. Yeah, sometimes the nuts get a little loose but that's hardly a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, matski said: I use a Comfort Strapp with Schallers fitted Been using Schallers since about 1984 and never had any problems with 'em. Yeah, sometimes the nuts get a little loose but that's hardly a big deal. Until they come off completely and the bass drops to the floor... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Never had a problem with Schaller strap locks & I've recently bought some of the new design & they seem ok too. Time will tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 IF YOU HAVE TO CHECK THAT THE NUT IS TIGHT BEFORE EVERY SESSION THEN YOU MAY AS WELL JUST CHECK YOUR STRAP IS ON PROPERLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 06/08/2018 at 13:09, EBS_freak said: Until they come off completely and the bass drops to the floor... It has never happened so far.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Been using Shaller strap locks for a few years. I love the concept but had some minor issues. The nut in mine comes loose from time to time, and even using a wrench to tighten them they get loose after a few weeks. I use a Minotaur strap that's a bit thick but it shouldn't be a problem, but every time a step on stage my routine is "pick up the bass - insert jack - re-tighten strap screws by hand - tune bass". Luckly i've found these new locks in Thomann a few seconds before doing the checkout in a recent order so one of the new sets is comming my way as i'm typing. Good thing i spotted them last week as i've only seen this thread today. I think the grub screw on the new nut is the key to solve the main problem with the old ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, matski said: It has never happened so far.... Ditto. By habit, I check the nuts on both locks when I first put the bass on. Takes about 5 seconds. No biggy. Strangely enough though, for my routine gigging basses I use the best straplocks known to man....Grolsch tops. never, ever, ever, ever fail Edited August 7, 2018 by martthebass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I also check them before every gig. They won't come completly loose during a gig unless you're playing bass whilst jumping in a trampolin for 3h straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) Easy fix, and they will never loosen your nuts on Schaller's. The locking washer. Ive been using these on Schaller's for years and they have never come loose. Edited August 7, 2018 by bubinga5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Always preferred Dunlop myself, just always work, simple and secure. The only issue I ever found with Schaller's, was if you were changing your strap in a rush (i.e. live) and the strap button didn't 'slide in' before the pin locked but still sat in the mechanism above the pin, your guitar would soon take a nosedive when it would 'unhook'. Not good for your instrument, sound or your bands reputation, let alone your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 15 hours ago, bubinga5 said: Easy fix, and they will never loosen your nuts on Schaller's. The locking washer. Ive been using these on Schaller's for years and they have never come loose. Good idea - I never quite got why they didn’t make the screw bit 2mm longer and give you a lock nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Used them for years without trouble, then got an ACG that had the dunlop ones which I preferred, so changed some basses for that, then the guitarist had a dunlop set fail, so now in the worst of world of having some shallers, some dunlops and some no strap locks and not sure where way to go. Prefer the dunlop shape in that you can still use a vanilla strap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I've been using the Schaller Strap Locks since the mid 80s and never had any problem with them. As others have said, the trick is to make sure the holes in the strap have been enlarged and then use two adjustable spanners to do up the nut (one the hold the lock and the other to turn the nut). Unlike the ones fitted to my Warwick StarBass which failed after a couple of months and have since been replaced with a set of Schallers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 02/08/2018 at 16:04, TheGreek said: I have these on a couple of basses. My preference though are for the early Warwick ones which go inside the body so don't stick out (makes balancing a bass on it's end sooo much easier). Never known them to ever go wrong. Warwick ones seem to be closely related to the Dunlop ones (Completely compatible), who also make the flush fit version. I love the idea of the Flush fit version, but it does mean that, in a fix. you can't use any old strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Fitted my new ones. They're great. The latch-on system is a nice addition and the new nut is awesome. The button to pull to get it out is a bit smaller than the older version, it shouldn't been changed. the strap button with the build-in screw is also a miss in my opinion. I think Schaller only needed to add the new nut and bevel the latch-on system in the old unit to have a winner. Maybe gen3 will sort this once and for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grenadillabama Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I tighten the nut too often and they sometimes made a rattle. One set had a squeak and I fixed it with a tad of chain lube from my bike. I get them for any bass or gtr that I don't want dropped. I hate dings and risky leanings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 It appears that many of you have ‘hacks’ that make them secure - now Schiller have released their own hack. IMO if they were designed well in the first place they wouldn’t need loctite, special straps, washers, etc. I remember nearly every bass having them when I started playing but I think better alternatives exist now. Its like having a slow puncture. Yeah you can pump it up once a week and it’s ok, or get it fixed. One could suddenly fail and leave you in a mess, the other doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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