Beer of the Bass Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 Why are almost all the youtube demos of these done with active basses with the onboard EQ cranked, and so focussed on slap? I don't really have anything against that sound, but it doesn't feel like the most obvious role for these amps... Quote
andy67 Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said: Why are almost all the youtube demos of these done with active basses with the onboard EQ cranked, and so focussed on slap? I don't really have anything against that sound, but it doesn't feel like the most obvious role for these amps... Thought that myself! However, when trying it out with my pbass and BB714, the amp is thunderous. Rich deep vintage tones all waiting to be explored Quote
Woodinblack Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Beer of the Bass said: Why are almost all the youtube demos of these done with active basses with the onboard EQ cranked, and so focussed on slap? I don't really have anything against that sound, but it doesn't feel like the most obvious role for these amps... Well, they seem to do it fine so maybe it is an obvious role. With an amp review with slap I tend to scrub through the video looking to see if there is any non slap, or go and find one that is there. I am still not convinced that amp sound demos are much good on youtube unless you have good monitor speakers or flat headphones. I did see one the other day with white noise and frequency responses of a few speakers, that was a useful thing. Quote
Linus27 Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 Probably going to get one of these in the new year (need to buy a few other things first) and wondering what the Portaflex speakers are like to go with one of these as a main rig. Anyone had any experience with the Portaflex cabs? Quote
afterimage Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 https://www.guitarinteractivemagazine.com/issues/issue-39/reviews/ampeg-pf-50t-head/ Quote
obbm Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 21 hours ago, Linus27 said: Anyone had any experience with the Portaflex cabs? I briefly owned a 2x10 Portaflex cab. I found it bulky and heavy. Didn't like the sound either but that's a very personal thing. I think there are some much better and lighter cabs on the market which will give you better results. 1 Quote
Linus27 Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, obbm said: I briefly owned a 2x10 Portaflex cab. I found it bulky and heavy. Didn't like the sound either but that's a very personal thing. I think there are some much better and lighter cabs on the market which will give you better results. Thank you Dave. I'm kind of leaning that way anyway as I would keep my LM3 still. I'm considering either a Barefaced or Vanderkley cab set up which I think would would well with the LM3 and the Ampeg head. I just love the vintage look of the Ampeg Portaflex cabs but its not too important. Quote
pbasspecial Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Quote I use mine with a Barefaced Super Compact (vintage model). Looks and sounds fantastic, super light too. 1 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 I'm using one or two of my DIY 1x12 cabs with my Pf-50t though I did take it to a rehearsal yesterday and tried it with the house Ampeg 810-AV cab. That was sort of fun - with that much speaker area it really doesn't give the impression of being a low powered amp! Quote
JapanAxe Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 Just ordered a PF-50T from Kenny's. 😎 2 Quote
obbm Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Linus27 said: I just love the vintage look of the Ampeg Portaflex cabs but its not too important. As well as the PF-115 and the PF-210 there is also the PF-112HLF which looks rather interesting and not too expensive at the moment. Quote
Linus27 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, obbm said: As well as the PF-115 and the PF-210 there is also the PF-112HLF which looks rather interesting and not too expensive at the moment. Getting good reviews the PF-112HLF as well. Best I have seen is Thomman for £333. Edited October 25, 2018 by Linus27 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I can imagine the TKS S112 or S212 would be good with these amps too. I used the same driver in my DIY cabs, and the sensitivity and voicing work well with the Pf-50t. Quote
Twincam Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 On 19/10/2018 at 13:10, converse320 said: My PF20t exchange unit arrived today. It is different in two respects. Hum has almost completely gone - its perfectly acceptable now, in fact barely audible. The amp overall is also noticeably louder. There was clearly a fault on the first one, though the character of the sound hasn't really changed. Big thumpy tones on tap. I still can't get much in the way of change in tone with the gain turned up though - no noticeable change in tone regardless of the level of gain, just makes it louder. Cab still MB 1516B - deafeningly loud now if you want it to be. These need the eq to be turned up a bit more than usual then gain cranked up to get growl. The pf20t doesn't have as much gain as the pf50t. But you can certainly get growl and overdrive just all the settings need to be fairly high. Quote
andy67 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 My PF50T is running through an Hartke AK410 beautifully. Gotta be careful though as live in a flat ... Quote
afterimage Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Using mine with a 2x 10 TC electronic cab nice sound Quote
JapanAxe Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Took delivery of the PF-50T and connected it to my Super Twin, then plugged in my '73 P and played along with a classic soul compilation. Oh. My. God. Punchy, fat, touch-responsive sound. Smooth and effective tone controls, including a Treble control that actually has a useful effect with flat-wound strings. The Gain knob should actually be labelled 'Fur', as that's what it seems to control (in the best possible way). This amp is all that I hoped it would be - and no hum, I'm pleased to say. Here's the rig, and the settings I ended up with: 2 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 That's not so far from where I set the EQ on mine, though my mid frequency is generally on setting 4. Boosting mids does something cool when the preamp is running just a little gritty! Quote
JapanAxe Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said: That's not so far from where I set the EQ on mine, though my mid frequency is generally on setting 4. Boosting mids does something cool when the preamp is running just a little gritty! I originally had the mid boosted on 2 (400Hz), but it immediately gained clarity when I set it to 3 (800Hz). Setting 4 (1.6kHz) is just getting into the 'presence band', which should zing it up nicely! Quote
afterimage Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 The filters are useful too. Tweak around a bit lots of sweet spots on this Amp Quote
afterimage Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Gain setting on mine is around nine o'Clock Quote
Twincam Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 My 20t despite having slightly different eq points has the eq set similar. Generally the bass slightly cut, mids and treble slightly boasted. Quote
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