afterimage Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Mine is quiet too but in another room it does hum a bit till I put a decent hi fi mains cable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, afterimage said: Mine is quiet too but in another room it does hum a bit till I put a decent hi fi mains cable Errr... have you got hi-fi house wiring too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
converse320 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Its a shame all the discussion on fixing hum is relating to the 50T. Nothing on the 20T that I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markorbit Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, converse320 said: Its a shame all the discussion on fixing hum is relating to the 50T. Nothing on the 20T that I can find. I think the hum is louder on the PF50T. My PF20T does hum but less than the PF50T from what I remember. It's not that noticable on the PF20T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 No hum at all out of my ctm-100 or the little bastard I used to have ? Just clean warm valvey goodness . (Am I doing something wrong 😆?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Mine is quiet too but in another room it does hum a bit till I put a decent hi fi mains cable Noisy mains when full load electrical Washing machine and Fridge freezer etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 17/09/2018 at 18:37, afterimage said: Mine is quiet too but in another room it does hum a bit till I put a decent hi fi mains cable Noisy mains when full load electrical Washing machine and Fridge freezer etc Does this cable have some kind of suppressor fitted? Maybe that is filtering out mains-borne noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Yes it does makes a big difference loving the Amp great tones Through a 2x10 TC Electronic cab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 https://www.audiosanctuary.co.uk/supra-cables-lorad-1.5-mains-cable.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Have pulled the trigger on a PF50T, hopefully its all I need ... for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aitkenaudio Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 best bet is to take your set up to a shop and try out as many heads as you can, don't be scared to try things that don't say bass on the front as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Had some people round this weekend. We had a nice little jam in our music room. Drums, Bass and two guitars. Gave me a chance to try out the PF20T and the Ashdown CTM15 in a smallish setting. Both amps were used with a Vanderkley 2x10. PF20T: Felt very traditional - lots of good ampeg tone, and was surprisingly loud and had plenty of presence. It behaved how I expected it to, and it did a great job of carrying bass against a full kit and two guitars going into Boss Katana amps. CTM15: Properly surprising amp. With no gain and master on full it was loud enough to carry through - not as loud as the PF20, but decent though. With gain dialled in at 50% it was positively raucous and had a really biting and cutting sound that sat really nicely in the mix - needed an eq tweak to get it to work, but it was really surprising. I can see them both being very useful in small band situations and for recording. The pf20t for "that" sound, and the CTM15 for a whole different type of sound. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 All this talk of valves - as tempting as the pf50 was, I was thinking it was just too small. Then this turned up, and I figured, probably still too small, but it wasn't that expensive (sh), so worth a spin. Turned up tonight: Certainly looks the part. Have a gig at one of our regular places on friday so I will take it along and see what I can make it do! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I tried my PF20T at rehearsal the other night. Used the cab from the rehearsal room (some Hartke 15" I believe). Was almost maxed out, Gain at about 1 or 2 o'clock, bass at about 4 and volume around 3 to be heard against kit, keys, 2 guitars, trombone, trumpet and vocals. With the gain there, had to play gingerly to stop it going from a purr to a growl but it held its own against all that. I'd have no qualms gigging it with PA support at a larger gig or by itself with a smaller band. The difference with a second cab when playing at home is pretty huge too so if I could be bothered to take 2 cabs, would be fine for most regular gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
converse320 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Mines back to Kenny's because of the hum. New unit on its way that is guaranteed not to hum, so fingers crossed. But it's plenty loud enough for anything i can ever imagine doing, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriseardley Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 15/09/2018 at 11:05, Bridgehouse said: Just received a PF50T from Kenny's. No sign of hum when hooked up to a TC electronic cab. Really impressed by the sound for the price. Fantastic recording tool when plugged into my DAW which will probably be it's main use for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbasspecial Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Ok so I finally got to use my new Ampeg PF50t in anger last night. I depped for a friends band, a 5 piece 2 guitar, heavy hitting drummer doing classic rock covers (GNR, ACDC, Thin Lizzy, etc). I used just one cab, a Barefaced Super Compact so I switched the amp to the 8 ohm setting. I was a little worried that it might not be able to handle the gig so I brought my Ampeg PF500 with me too just in case. Well that stayed in its case all night. The PF50 handled it with flying colours. Lovely sound, enough volume (got told that the bass was too loud but mgt) not lots of headroom but enough. I had a friend who is a musician in our audience who said it sounded fantastic. I also used a P bass (round wounds) with no pedals as there was not enough room on stage. Very happy bunny. Buy with confidence. Oh and the guitarist said "wow it looks like a V8 engine". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Heads up, Gear4Music have a PF-50T for £349! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: Heads up, Gear4Music have a PF-50T for £349! I wonder how long they'll have that for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpaws Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, pbasspecial said: Ok so I finally got to use my new Ampeg PF50t in anger last night. I depped for a friends band, a 5 piece 2 guitar, heavy hitting drummer doing classic rock covers (GNR, ACDC, Thin Lizzy, etc). I used just one cab, a Barefaced Super Compact so I switched the amp to the 8 ohm setting. I was a little worried that it might not be able to handle the gig so I brought my Ampeg PF500 with me too just in case. Well that stayed in its case all night. The PF50 handled it with flying colours. Lovely sound, enough volume (got told that the bass was too loud but mgt) not lots of headroom but enough. I had a friend who is a musician in our audience who said it sounded fantastic. I also used a P bass (round wounds) with no pedals as there was not enough room on stage. Very happy bunny. Buy with confidence. Oh and the guitarist said "wow it looks like a V8 engine". Result!! I wonder what it would be like with two cabs? Do you think with a 210 and a 115 it would keep up with a hard hitting drummer and three guitars (which are mostly overdriven)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbasspecial Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Thunderpaws said: Result!! I wonder what it would be like with two cabs? Do you think with a 210 and a 115 it would keep up with a hard hitting drummer and three guitars (which are mostly overdriven)? Maybe but I had it matched to the cab for maximum spl or whatever it's called. If you have the option of PA support, then I wouldn't hesitate but if they are really loud and you don't then I think you might struggle. Sorry for sitting on the fence. Probably doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbasspecial Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Used it again at rehearsal last night with my souly/bluesy/rocky project. The keys player wasn't there last night so it quickly morphed into a 3 piece blues rock trio. The guitarist always plays far too loud with a very bright tone. Not pleasant and has a million super expensive pedals that all sound very similar. Anyway, the PF50t sounded great, didn't run out of power and looks great. Still happy with the decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Love mine great Tone have used it with a TC electronic 2x10 What a bargain they are PF50t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
converse320 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 My PF20t exchange unit arrived today. It is different in two respects. Hum has almost completely gone - its perfectly acceptable now, in fact barely audible. The amp overall is also noticeably louder. There was clearly a fault on the first one, though the character of the sound hasn't really changed. Big thumpy tones on tap. I still can't get much in the way of change in tone with the gain turned up though - no noticeable change in tone regardless of the level of gain, just makes it louder. Cab still MB 1516B - deafeningly loud now if you want it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 10 hours ago, converse320 said: I still can't get much in the way of change in tone with the gain turned up though - no noticeable change in tone regardless of the level of gain, just makes it louder. I thought that at first but when I took it to rehearsal after about 20 minutes of play, it really started to growl. Maybe it just needs a little more time to warm up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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