Jimothey Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Hi I had a quick search on here for the answer but couldn't find out what I need to know?? I need a bit if advice I'm going to be wiring up my 5 string Jazz-ish bass I'm using this wiring diagram as a reference If I wire up exactly the same as this I have to move a couple of wires from one terminal to another but my pickup wires branch in to 2 a white sleeved and a red sleeved with an unsleeved wire wrapped around it the red?? Am I right in think that the white is the hot and the red is the ground? So do I solder both the red and the unsleeved to the top of the pot as a ground or do they need to be wired up separately?? Thanks for any advice in advance😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) It's possible you could be right, but not sure if you're describing plastic/fabric sleeving or is it a woven metal screening round the hot wire? If it's a screening round the hot wire, it will be the screen that's ground. If this is the case, they might be 2-coil pickups. Lets make it easier - what make are the pickups? Or, where did you get them? Edit: Is it like this, but single core? Edited August 24, 2018 by Grangur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikay Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Or two core with a bare shield wire like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Which make of pickup are they? Usually single coils (most Jazz bass pups) only have 2 wires, you might have an extra wire for noise cancelling or something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 53 minutes ago, ikay said: Or two core with a bare shield wire like this? That's how it looks, but the unsleeved wire is wrapped round the red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, paul_5 said: Which make of pickup are they? Usually single coils (most Jazz bass pups) only have 2 wires, you might have an extra wire for noise cancelling or something similar? The pickups are the originals that come with the bass according to the spec details online they say they are Powersound (never heard of them!?!) I thought that maybe the unsleeved wire is for shielding purposes but I'm unsure whether to solder it with the red or not?? Edited August 24, 2018 by Jimothey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I’d put money on the unshielded wire being ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, paul_5 said: I’d put money on the unshielded wire being ground. So where do you reckon the red wire goes if the unshielded wire goes to ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Unconnected. Try it without the red wire, just put some insulation tape over the end. have you got a multimeter to check the DC resistance of the pickups with the red connected to ground or hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikay Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) If white is hot then red should go to ground along with the unshielded wire. The bare wire is probably being used to earth the polepieces or could just be a shield. The red and white wires will be from opposite ends of the coil so one will be hot and the other cold (ground). If you leave either of these unconnnected the pickup will effectively be open-circuit and you won't get a signal. Edited August 24, 2018 by ikay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, paul_5 said: Unconnected. Try it without the red wire, just put some insulation tape over the end. have you got a multimeter to check the DC resistance of the pickups with the red connected to ground or hot? Yeah I have I'll check it later 2 minutes ago, ikay said: If white is hot then red should go to ground along with the unshielded wire. The unshielded wire is probably being used to earth the polepieces. The red and white wires will be from opposite ends of the coil so one will be hot and the other cold (ground). If you leave the red wire unconnnected the pickup will effectively be open-circuit and you won't get a signal. That makes more sense because if you don't need to connect it then what's the point if it being there in the first place I'll hopefully get it wired up over the weekend Thanks everyone for your help 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Wouldn't the shielding be round the hot wire (i.e. red)? Otherwise it wouldn't be shielding the signal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Norris said: Wouldn't the shielding be round the hot wire (i.e. red)? Otherwise it wouldn't be shielding the signal On all the diagrams I've looked at the white is the hot because it always goes to one of the terminals on the pot and the red goes to ground on the base of it? I've looked again at the pickups and I thought the unsleeved cable wraps round the red the whole length to the pickup but it only is wrapped round when it comes out of the sleeving of both cables it looks like it's just in the middle of the two? Edited August 25, 2018 by Jimothey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's not coaxial cable then. Ok, as you were... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 24/08/2018 at 01:03, Jimothey said: Am I right in think that the white is the hot and the red is the ground? So do I solder both the red and the unsleeved to the top of the pot as a ground Yes and yes, you answered your own questions in the first post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimothey Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, KiOgon said: Yes and yes, you answered your own questions in the first post! I thought I was right but I just wanted to check thanks everyone Just out of interest how much do you charge for a standard P bass solderless wiring loom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jimothey said: Just out of interest how much do you charge for a standard P bass solderless wiring loom? I'll send you a PM John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VedranPU Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 17:14, KiOgon said: I'll send you a PM John Can you, John, send a PM with the same answer to me please... TNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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