Cicero Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Who doesn't like a bit of midnight Mingus? One of the best openers on any album! And let's not overlook what happens to be one of the best album titles/coversĀ š¤£ Edited September 10, 2018 by Cicero 7 Quote
thepurpleblob Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Jazz... do NOT get it. Sorry I suspect it may be my loss. Edited September 10, 2018 by thepurpleblob Quote
Johnny Wishbone Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, thepurpleblob said: Jazz... do NOT get it. Sorry I suspect it may be my loss. Lifeās too short.Ā As the late Tony Wilson once said: āJazz musicians enjoy themselves far more than anyone listening to themā. *Other opinions areĀ available. 2 2 Quote
Cicero Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, thepurpleblob said: Jazz... do NOT get it. Sorry I suspect it may be my loss. This isn't just Jazz... It'sĀ soul, it's blues, it's gospel, it's grooooooooooveĀ š Quote
Dad3353 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 There are only so many things to be done with 12-bar... ... ... and that's not one of them. Well titled, though; sloppy as heck. Not a fan, I'm afraid.Ā Quote
chris_b Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Oh Yeah and Ah Um were required listening in my school band, we had a 3 piece brass section. We used to play Oh Lord, Don't Drop That Atomic Bomb On Me. 1 Quote
thepurpleblob Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Cicero said: This isn't just Jazz... It'sĀ soul, it's blues, it's gospel, it's grooooooooooveĀ š To put this in perspective... I (truthfully) just bought New Model Army tickets. I am beyond your helpĀ š Quote
SpondonBassed Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Cicero said: Who doesn't like a bit of midnight Mingus? That's a statement that definitely benefits from the spell check. 3 Quote
SpondonBassed Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, chris_b said: Oh Yeah and Ah Um were required listening in my school band, we had a 3 piece brass section. We used to play Oh Lord, Don't Drop That Atomic Bomb On Me. I'd like to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, it was not the lord who dropped the atom bomb. Quote
Cicero Posted September 11, 2018 Author Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, SpondonBassed said: I'd like to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, it was not the lord who dropped the atom bomb. Well, someone's dropped something in here... Open a window! Or, perhaps, it's just that jazz is not dead... It just smells funny. š¤Ā š 1 Quote
Cicero Posted September 11, 2018 Author Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, SpondonBassed said: That's a statement that definitely benefits from the spell check. Done... 12 hours ago, Cicero said: Who doesn't like a bit of midnight Mango? Mmm... MangoĀ šš¤£ 1 Quote
SpondonBassed Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, Cicero said: Well, someone's dropped something in here... Open a window! Don't worry OP.Ā I wont bring any naked flames into the room to add injury to the insult. Heeheehee. I don't get jazz either.Ā You might have gathered. I have enjoyed a couple of jazzy meals where I was captive in the audience on the Sunday Lunch circuit but that is almost certainly a diluted presentation of popular standards.Ā Beyond that, it goes right over my head. I have downloaded the Mingus clip for my personal education and I will watch it later.Ā Thanks. 1 Quote
Cato Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, thepurpleblob said: Jazz... do NOT get it. Sorry I suspect it may be my loss. I've only really gotten into jazz in the last few years, after IĀ got a bit bored with guitar bands. I started listening to a lot more 70s style funk and that led me to Herbie Hancock and things progressed naturally from there. I'm still not keen on the traditional big band type stuff though. Edited September 11, 2018 by Cato Quote
knirirr Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Cicero said: One of the best openers on any album! Not Mingus, but I find this a rather good opening as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSR1sfaSQE8 1 Quote
Barking Spiders Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 I did try hard at getting into jaaazz a few years ago (honest) and bought a couple of Mingus platters and a whole bunch of other allaged classic, mostly those cheap as chips box sets. To be fair the Mingus stuff wasn't bad, not good enough for me too keep but notĀ deserving being flung through the kitchen window. Most of the rest just didn't tickle theĀ rightĀ parts andĀ all ended up being sold on Zon Quote
SpondonBassed Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 6 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: I have downloaded the Mingus clip for my personal education and I will watch it later.Ā Thanks. I didn't get to the end. Not hooky enough, sorry. Quote
Cicero Posted September 11, 2018 Author Posted September 11, 2018 Heathens! At least you tried š 1 Quote
Maude Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 I haven't tried any jazz for while, I'm going to have a listen and report back in a bit. 1 Quote
Frank Blank Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 15 hours ago, thepurpleblob said: To put this in perspective... I (truthfully) just bought New Model Army tickets. I am beyond your helpĀ š Iāve just got NMA tickets as well as loving Charles Mingus. Quote
Ceebass Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 On 10/09/2018 at 20:20, Cicero said: Who doesn't like a bit of midnight Mingus? One of the best openers on any album! And let's not overlook what happens to be one of the best album titles/coversĀ š¤£ In full agreement- the best of Mingus' soul jazz jams. No-one like him! Do you have MingusĀ MingusĀ MingusĀ MingusĀ Mingus? There's a killer cut of Haitian Fight Song on there.Ā 2 Quote
BassTractor Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 On 11/09/2018 at 01:39, Dad3353 said: Well titled, though; sloppy as heck. Not a fan, I'm afraid.Ā Hehehe. I love the "sloppiness" as it's character defining. Many songs earnĀ on notĀ being played tightly. IMHO of course. BTW I'm used to playing stuff withĀ all types of timing characteristics even at an early stage of learning it, and find it enlightening. Helps me decide on a final version that has something new to offer to an audience. 1 Quote
Dad3353 Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, BassTractor said: Hehehe. I love the "sloppiness" as it's character defining. Many songs earnĀ on notĀ being played tightly. IMHO of course. BTW I'm used to playing stuff withĀ all types of timing characteristics even at an early stage of learning it, and find it enlightening. Helps me decide on a final version that has something new to offer to an audience. I'd agree if it were simply the playing that's 'sloppy'; in my opinion the whole concept lacks clarity of purpose and depth. The arrangement, the composition (What composition..? It's a simple, badly executed 12-bar, s'all..!), the sounds captured... Possibly (probably..?) fun for the participants at the time, and maybe (but only 'maybe'...) worthwhile as a record of that, but as a third-person listening experience, I'd not wish to repeat it, which, to me, has not a little importance. No regrets for having given it a go (well, just a few...), and not a showcase piece for his/their potential; I think there's better stuff to listen to, even from them. Still, different folks, 'n all that.Ā 1 Quote
Owen Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 There is something for everyone out there, as we all agree. What does it for me here is the vibe.Ā Ā 1 Quote
Ceebass Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dad3353 said: I'd agree if it were simply the playing that's 'sloppy'; in my opinion the whole concept lacks clarity of purpose and depth. The arrangement, the composition (What composition..? It's a simple, badly executed 12-bar, s'all..!), the sounds captured... Possibly (probably..?) fun for the participants at the time, and maybe (but only 'maybe'...) worthwhile as a record of that, but as a third-person listening experience, I'd not wish to repeat it, which, to me, has not a little importance. No regrets for having given it a go (well, just a few...), and not a showcase piece for his/their potential; I think there's better stuff to listen to, even from them. Still, different folks, 'n all that.Ā Interesting how Mingus polarises opinion- I was hooked from the first listen! What I hear in his work is absolute artistic conviction and an beautiful, organic melding ofĀ African-American musical traditions.Ā Check out the composition/form again- it's not a regular blues (definitely not 12 bars!)Ā Cool melding of blues and jazz harmony, irregular phrase lengths, modulation to an unrelated key... more than meets the eye/ear. Great bass playing as well, he rocks a 6/8 metre. Edited September 12, 2018 by Ceebass 2 Quote
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