Sibob Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Si 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) He makes some valid points about every generation predictably denigrating the music produced by the next. But the stuff about your musical tastes being set when you're a teenager is complete BS. In my teens I was listening pretty much exclusively to heavy metal bands like Maiden, Megadeth and Anthrax. I stopped listening to that stuff in my early twenties. It would never occur to me to put one of their albums on these days. Now I mainly listen to to soul, funk and jazz stuff that I would have turned off if it had come on the radio when when I was kid. I'd guess most people are the same, eventually we get bored of the same old, same old and move on to something else. Edited September 20, 2018 by Cato 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Agree C, think he's talking BS.......I think my tastes changed routinely through to my mid twenties and then more slowly thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I would agree pretty much 100% with everything he says. Yes I listen to different music now than I did as a teenager, but if I were to list my top 10 albums of all time, every single one of them without exception would be albums I listened to in my teens. While listening to music has always been enjoyable, I've never heard a single album or even artist that's had anything like the impact of the bands I listened to back then. Edited September 20, 2018 by Newfoundfreedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 I don't think he's saying that you still avidly listen to the same stuff you did as a kid, but that the feelings experienced and chemicals released when you do listen to that older stuff, music that moulded your childhood, is significantly different to what happens when you listen to newer music now. It's less cerebral, more linked to emotional memory etc. And actually, the research seems to support that. That's not to say that there aren't exceptions, but I would struggle to believe that someone who loved a band or artist when they were a teenager, actively dislike that band/artist now.....even if it's a guilty pleasure in the eyes of more snobbish company. Si 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) ^ Yes. It's because the music you listen to between the ages of 11 and 18 (or so) happen at the most incredible and impressionable time of your life. Of course you're going to remember your first girlfriend, your first acid trip, the first time you drove a car, motorbike, the first time you fell in love, the day you left home - and the horror of pubes. The music you hear at this time is indelible and when you hear it now, you're not only reminded of those times, you're BACK THERE experiencing those feelings all over again. Powerful stuff! Nothing special about the music though - it's just burnt into your mind through association!* *Actually, some of it is still pretty special. Edited September 20, 2018 by discreet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 What none of you seem to understand is that those are valve memories ... 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: What none of you seem to understand is that those are valve memories ... So, LOUD memories with plenty of HEFT!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: What none of you seem to understand is that those are valve memories ... 6 minutes ago, Marvin said: So, LOUD memories with plenty of HEFT!!! So THAT'S why old people are deaf! 'What's that, sonny..? I'm afraid I'm a bit hard of hearing - I saw Led Zep at Earl's Court in 1975...' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I think music was way harder to make and learn an instrument many moons ago and there was a lot less of it..Now everyone and there dog is trying there hand at it. It was only 13 years ago I had a tape player to rewind back to the bass part, then rewind again, and again and again.. I think generally when you have to work harder for it, you get a better result. Not always of course. I will say this, the days of people like Stevie Wonder, Prince, Micheal Jackson, etc have long gone. At least in popular music. Its all become watered down somewhat. Edited September 20, 2018 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Various studies suggest that one's musical tastes are formed by the age of 14 (men) and 13 (women) and that one reaches one's peak age of musical discovery in one's mid twenties. One assumes that the years 0-5 are those in which one's musical exposure is predominantly formed by the tastes of those around oneself (parents, older siblings, etc) and the years 5-14 being those in which one begins to exercise a growing degree of control of one's consumption. At 14 one stands upon the threshold of adulthood, probably armed with sufficient cash to begin one's wider exploration of musical consumables. By one's mid-20's one's exploration (and formation of identity) is more or less complete. At 30 one's tastes abruptly atrophy and its the same three bands on constant rotation until one drops off the twig, one's last words being 'I can see God and ... it's ... Tom Petty'. The same applies to pretty much everything else one consumes from ice cream to toothpaste. This is nothing new: I remember having an almost identical discussion about life-stage formation of preferences with someone from Proctor & Gamble's washing powder division nearly 40 years ago. He enlightened me when he explained that most advertisers target young people to embed general product affinities early on and frankly don't give a toss about those aged over 35 unless it's incontinence pads, back-ache pills and Saga cruises. Edited September 20, 2018 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, skankdelvar said: ...incontinence pads, back-ache pills and Saga cruises. Eeeh, luxury! I used to dream of incontinence pads, back-ache pills and Saga cruises. Still do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Ah ha! But I try to keep up with all the new Britpop bands... Def Leppard, UB40... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Gosh! You young people and your trendy 'beat music' - and that 'hit parade'! What's it all about?? It'll never catch on! Fecking druggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) THE SUN SAYS What's wrong with our Young People? They're all a bunch of snivelling woofters COMMENT By The Sun 34th September 2018, 2:49 am Updated: 35th September 2018, 2:50 am Kids Today, eh? WHATEVER happened our young people? Back in the old days we'd listen to music by Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin then go out on a Friday night like a horde of rampaging Vikings intent on burning, looting, and pulling a few stunnahs. But our kids don't do that anymore. Instead, they sit around posting videos of themselves singing the Jeremy Corbyn song while their pinko 'friends' (say it with a whinging lilt) bang on about 'isshoos' and communism. What a bunch of nancies. Research shows that our nation's shining youth are far less like likely to drink, smoke or bonk than any of their proud British ancestors. But it's not really our kids' fault. Meddling social workers and hand-wringing 'teachers' have brainwashed them to reject booze, ciggies and shagging. And make no mistake: these socialist 'assassins of youth' could never have got away with it if they hadn't been supported by a Brussels-financed Quisling record industry full of whiny ginger snowflakes with stupid tiny guitars and screeching pop feminists on a mission. THERE'S only one answer: Everyone under the age of 25 must be prescribed a musical crash diet of Whitesnake's Greatest Hits until they're back to normal Edited September 20, 2018 by skankdelvar 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, skankdelvar said: ...it's not really our kids' fault. Meddling social workers and hand-wringing 'teachers' have brainwashed them to reject booze, ciggies and shagging. And make no mistake: these socialist 'assassins of youth' could never have got away with it if they hadn't been supported by a Brussels-financed Quisling record industry full of whiny ginger snowflakes with stupid tiny guitars and screeching pop feminists on a mission.... I think you may have something there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 9 hours ago, discreet said: I think you may have something there. I think many many teachers, rather than wringing hands would like to wring necks. Unfortunately they are not allowed to these days. Shame, in my day it had the double advantage of improving the gene pool and providing entertainment for psychopathic metalwork teachers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 As a 14 year old I was listening to most types of rock my faves back then being Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, Van Halen, AC/DC, Bad Company, Quo, Judas Priest, Skynyrd, Collins era Genesis and U2 . Now if I hear any thing by any of these and a hundreds more of their ilk I turn off the radio. School life from the age of 14 was utter shoite. So mebbe subconsciously I associate those bands with a cr@p time of life. My best years were 18 -24 when I was mostly getting into synthy/electronic stuff and I've been within all that ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 16 hours ago, discreet said: the horror of pubes. There's my new band name, right there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Barking Spiders said: As a 14 year old I was listening to most types of rock my faves back then being Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, Van Halen, AC/DC, Bad Company, Quo, Judas Priest, Skynyrd, Collins era Genesis and U2 . Now if I hear any thing by any of these and a hundreds more of their ilk I turn off the radio. School life from the age of 14 was utter shoite. So mebbe subconsciously I associate those bands with a cr@p time of life. My best years were 18 -24 when I was mostly getting into synthy/electronic stuff and I've been within all that ever since. You've just told my early musical history.........not born on/around 1963 by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HengistPod Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Up to the age of 14 I was the world's hugest Abba fan (still am partial to their pop sensibilities). At 14 a school mate nicked half a dozen copies of Axe Attack from Woolies and sold them to the rest of us for a quid. Then I went to my first gig, UFO at Aberdeen Capitol. Bass guitar became my Obsession overnight (arf). Over the next maybe 15 years I was open to all sorts of new bands, went to loads of gigs, actively followed up leads in Sounds and Kerrang, went to pubs that had live bands on, thought nothing of travelling the length of Britain to go to a gig. Or indeed to pack in my 30K a year job in Kent in 1992 and move back to Aberdeen to play bass in a pub band. That wasn't such a bright move, with hindsight. After that time I've found there's very little new music that appeals to me. Even older bands who I've never really listened to - Nazareth, Gary Moore, and so on. I don't have the brain-time or inclination to get into new music. I do find, though, that classical is interesting me more and more ... from an easy Strauss entry point, it's graduating to Wagner, Liszt and Saint-Saens. As I continue to age, one day I hope not to get into jazz. Edited September 21, 2018 by HengistPod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, martthebass said: You've just told my early musical history.........not born on/around 1963 by any chance? Missed by 7 years! Were you at a shoite boarding school too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, HengistPod said: As I continue to age, one day I hope not to get into jazz. It might snuck up on you unawares and hang around for a while. It did me two years ago when I was 45 as I went all 1950s beatnik hep cat. Didn't last long and I recovered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: Missed by 7 years! Were you at a shoite boarding school too? No.......working class comprehensive lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: Were you at a shoite boarding school too? 2 minutes ago, martthebass said: No... working class comprehensive! Same thing, but with less buggery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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