jacko Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Daz39 said: The problem with DT (and i say this as a big fan) is that yoy can rarely hear the bass properly without really focussing, prevalent it is not. Was about to say the same. JM spends much of his DT time either doubling petrucci's lines or using so much distortion it's really hard to pick him out. He's much more prominent in 'The Jelly jam' . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB67 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) On 10/10/2018 at 04:50, dmccombe7 said: If you are more into Rock albums with lyrics try Black Sabbath Heaven and Hell. Some great clear bass lines on there. Dave On 10/10/2018 at 05:05, Coilte said: To get a real flavour of the bass work, it would be best to listen with ear phones Working my way through the tremendous list everyone has posted...starting with the CDs I already own. The combination of the two items above...listening to H&H through headphones...blew me away!!! 🤯 The bass on this entire CD is just so clear and amazing----I was in awe of the playing (and how much clearer and better it sounds when listening through headphones and just concentrating on the bass line)!!! Cannot wait to listen to many of the other recommendation found here.....I think early Whitesnake will be my next listening experience! TripleB67 Edited October 11, 2018 by TripleB67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BreadBin said: I heard Cake - Short Skirt Long Jacket on 6Music yesterday @Frank Blank I am guessing that was Gabe Nelson on there? It sounded fantastic It was, he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
songofthewind Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Liberty City, Jaco Pastorius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I was listening to Raw Stylus in the car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 The first three Jamiroquai albums with Stuart Zender The first half dozen by Tower of Power - fingerstyle funk at its finest by Rocco Prestia any by Graham Central Station -if you want some heavy funk by the godfather of slap bass the first two New Model Army - Stuart Morrow excelling with the plectrum Sulk by The Associates - several great fast played basslines by Michael Dempsey New Gold Dream by Simple Minds - chock full of tasty basslines these should keep you busy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, TripleB67 said: Working my way through the tremendous list everyone has posted...starting with the CDs I already own. The combination of the two items above...listening to H&H through headphones...blew me away!!! 🤯 The bass on this entire CD is just so clear and amazing----I was in awe of the playing (and how much clearer and better it sounds when listening through headphones and just concentrating on the bass line)!!! Cannot wait to listen to many of the other recommendation found here.....I think early Whitesnake will be my next listening experience! TripleB67 Bass is detuned to Eb on that album just in case you were trying to learn it straight from the album. Think this was Geezer at his very best. Pretty sure it was a custom Jaydee bass he used on it. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: Bass is detuned to Eb on that album just in case you were trying to learn it straight from the album. Think this was Geezer at his very best. Pretty sure it was a custom Jaydee bass he used on it. Dave Great album - Craig Gruber always insisted that it was he who played on it, and that they came to a 'financial agreement' afterwards. I for one think it's possible, as it's definitely BS's best 'bass' album. Bass albums? Too many to choose - but for today, I'd plump for 'Red' by King Crimson. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, spongebob said: for today, I'd plump for 'Red' by King Crimson. 😀 John Wetton's tone - bass and voice is great on this record. Starless is legend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Bestial Cluster by Mick Karn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, spongebob said: Great album - Craig Gruber always insisted that it was he who played on it, and that they came to a 'financial agreement' afterwards. I for one think it's possible, as it's definitely BS's best 'bass' album. Bass albums? Too many to choose - but for today, I'd plump for 'Red' by King Crimson. 😀 Now that's really quite interesting. The bass parts stood out from everything else Sabbath had ever done that i know off yet some of the bass runs are similar to what Geezer would play. Think in earlier Sabbath the bass was hidden back in the mix rather than forward like H&H album so now its really got me wondering. Does anyone else have any insight into this ? I'm not generally a Sabbath fan and only occasionally listened to them until i heard the H&H album which is the only one i've ever thought was a classic album for me. Not everyone will agree on that but its just my own personal opinion of course Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I'm with you! My fave BS stuff is the Duo era. Really gave them a new purpose. As I'm typing on the phone, can't post a link right now....but if you Google Heaven And Hell and Craig Gruber, the 'net is full of stuff on it. Some say yes, some no. End of the day, he said he did the work on the album, and got, shall we say, paid off. Geezer (and the band line) was that he re-recorded the bass parts for release. Craig was by all accounts always very certain of what he did. They settled, and it became ancient history as far as he was concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, spongebob said: I'm with you! My fave BS stuff is the Duo era. Really gave them a new purpose. As I'm typing on the phone, can't post a link right now....but if you Google Heaven And Hell and Craig Gruber, the 'net is full of stuff on it. Some say yes, some no. End of the day, he said he did the work on the album, and got, shall we say, paid off. Geezer (and the band line) was that he re-recorded the bass parts for release. Craig was by all accounts always very certain of what he did. They settled, and it became ancient history as far as he was concerned. WOW i had no idea. Cheers for that. Still a brilliant album IMHO Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB67 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 13 hours ago, visog said: Rush-wise I'd go Moving Pictures for their best balance of songs, bass tone and musicianship. That's what I thought as well....however, after listening to Black Sabbath's H&H, the bass part in Moving Pictures wasn't as easy for me to find as the bass line in H&H...but then again, maybe it's because I'm always distracted by Peart's drums 😀 TripleB67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TripleB67 said: That's what I thought as well....however, after listening to Black Sabbath's H&H, the bass part in Moving Pictures wasn't as easy for me to find as the bass line in H&H...but then again, maybe it's because I'm always distracted by Peart's drums 😀 TripleB67 I have a Rush music book that i came across several yrs ago and much of Moving Pictures is in it. Would need to go look it out for corect name tho. Last time i looked at it was to learn Tom Sawyer for a band jam session and YYZ just for a bit of fun. Most of this you should get on line. I got the H&H album tracks on Ultimate Guitar site. Gave me the bass tabs and i think it tells you how the bass was tuned. Edited October 11, 2018 by dmccombe7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB67 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 12:30, uk_lefty said: Pearl Jam, Ten. Never realized it was so prevalent until I listened to it through headphones today.....brings a whole new life to this CD!!!! Thanks! On 10/10/2018 at 04:36, paul_5 said: Lateralus or 10,000 Days by Tool or anything by Charles Mingus. Which is the better of the two CDs by Tool? I've listened to a little of each....much profanity in either? TripleB67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, TripleB67 said: Never realized it was so prevalent until I listened to it through headphones today.....brings a whole new life to this CD!!!! Thanks! Which is the better of the two CDs by Tool? I've listened to a little of each....much profanity in either? TripleB67 I personally think Lateralus is the more 'classic' Tool bass album, but Justin was definitely in full on Digitech Bass Whammy usage mode which gives so much depth to tracks like Lateralus (07:21 for gratuitous use), Disposition (most of the track) and, most notably, Schism, which in itself has some pretty anthemic bass parts. I love 10,000 Days though, Rosetta Stoned and The Pot especially, though I think the album's lyrics score a little more highly on the swear factor! Edited October 12, 2018 by bakerster135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB67 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, bakerster135 said: I personally think Lateralus is the more 'classic' Tool bass album, but Justin was definitely in full on Digitech Bass Whammy usage mode which gives so much depth to tracks like Lateralus (07:21 for gratuitous use), Disposition (most of the track) and, most notably, Schism, which in itself has some pretty anthemic bass parts. I love 10,000 Days though, Rosetta Stoned and The Pot especially, though I think it scores a little more highly on the swear factor! Thanks!!! Listening to Mr. Big's first CD right now (through headphones of course)....I thought Sheehan was amazing before - now I am pretty sure he is a god!!! TripleB67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TripleB67 said: Thanks!!! Listening to Mr. Big's first CD right now (through headphones of course)....I thought Sheehan was amazing before - now I am pretty sure he is a god!!! TripleB67 Make sure you listen to Dave Lee Roth's Eat 'Em And Smile too, Sheehan and Vai on TOP form (Elephant Gun)! 😉 Edited October 12, 2018 by bakerster135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerster135 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Almost forgot about this beast too: Claimed he hadn't ever listened to Jaco, that's some BS... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 14:34, songofthewind said: On 11/10/2018 at 18:11, toneknob said: Bestial Cluster by Mick Karn Liberty City, Jaco Pastorius. I love Basschat! I love these recommendations. Both beautiful music. 'Liberty City' is just the tune, the album is the wonderful, 'Word of Mouth'. For what it's worth, I think Jaco, Mick and Percy Jones are the only fretless players to achieve a unique voice. Everyone else following some of the previously mentioned.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, visog said: I think Jaco, Mick and Percy Jones are the only fretless players to achieve a unique voice. Everyone else following some of the previously mentioned.. As someone who has recently started playing fretless it is very hard to find your own style or ‘voice’ without sounding like these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB67 Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 12:41, dmccombe7 said: Bass is detuned to Eb on that album just in case you were trying to learn it straight from the album. Think this was Geezer at his very best. Pretty sure it was a custom Jaydee bass he used on it. Dave Any other BS albums where the bass is an incredible as it is with H&H? I just can't get enough of this album....I never paid much attention to anything by Black Sabbath after about '77. Thanks!!!!! TripleB67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Google 'Freakpower'. Their first album Drive-Thru Booty is a great jam along album for bass players. It will teach you how to groove. Curtis Mayfield's album Superfly, has some superb groovy bass on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 6 hours ago, TripleB67 said: Any other BS albums where the bass is an incredible as it is with H&H? I just can't get enough of this album....I never paid much attention to anything by Black Sabbath after about '77. Thanks!!!!! TripleB67 That's the only one i know off where the bass is so clear and prominent. You could try Blizzard of Oz albums Diary of a Madman with Bob Daisley on bass. Couple of songs i really like from that era with Bob are S.A.T.O. and Crazy Train If i can think of anymore i'll let you know. Standard tuning on Crazy Train if i remember right. Not sure about S.A.T.O. Music on Ultimate Guitar if it helps too Bass Tip :- Crazy Train verse count 5 beats on the A before doing the little run down. Have fun. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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