warwickhunt Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Hey I'm always a bit sceptical and prone to getting it wrong occasionally but a bidder putting £389.99 and another bidder @ £399.99 smacks of shill bidding to me! Let's be honest even the most inexperienced eBayer goes for the straight rounded up figure (£400), whereas the wise/experienced eBay goes a couple of quid and a few coppers over the top of the nearest rounded figure (£401.01 or similar). What do you reckon? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320320053866"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=320320053866[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaver Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320320053866"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=320320053866[/url] [/quote] Front room looks a bit sw***y for Dudley to me Edit: Should have said "swish", didn't realise the anti profanity machine would do that. Most amused now Edited November 30, 2008 by deaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Maybe it's just me, but I think £436 for a Squier - even a JV - is a bit daft. But it looks nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I don’t get the attraction of old Squires? I’d think long and hard about paying half that for a Squire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='skankdelvar' post='341158' date='Nov 30 2008, 02:45 PM']Maybe it's just me, but I think £436 for a Squier - even a JV - is a bit daft. But it looks nice.[/quote] So £685 for a Squier is VERY silly? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150310448903&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=005[/url] I had one of these early large Fender small Squier logo basses when they first came out and it was very good. Whether it is worth more 'as a player's bass' than a USA bass of a similar age/quality is a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='benwhiteuk' post='341160' date='Nov 30 2008, 02:48 PM']I don’t get the attraction of old Squires? I’d think long and hard about paying half that for a Squire.[/quote] What would you pay for a MIJ Fender of similar vintage? That's what the Squier brand originally was - not cheapo starter tat. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelk27 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Own a Fender by Squire Strat - bought new, was my first "proper" guitar. Honestly, never played a Strat - US or Japanese - that's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I'd say at £436 that was very possibly a very good buy. Guy I know has an early 80s Squier Precision that is much better than his 70s Fender Precision. But you might think that's not saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelk27 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='EssentialTension' post='341351' date='Nov 30 2008, 08:03 PM']I'd say at £436 that was very possibly a very good buy. Guy I know has an early 80s Squier Precision that is much better than his 70s Fender Precision. But you might think that's not saying much.[/quote] I had an old Hondo II P'bass that was better than some 70s Precision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Ebay is for c**ts. I'd never buy or sell anything on that f***ing thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='341403' date='Nov 30 2008, 08:59 PM']Ebay is for c**ts. I'd never buy or sell anything on that f***ing thing.[/quote] I've done over 100 transactions on eBay - does that make me a Power-C*nt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Clarky' post='341407' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:02 PM']I've done over 100 transactions on eBay - does that make me a Power-C*nt? [/quote] Indeed it does. I don't own 100 things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='341409' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:03 PM']Indeed it does. I don't own 100 things.[/quote] Lice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Clarky' post='341411' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:07 PM']Lice?[/quote] Sorry BBC, rubbish joke and I know you are of a sensitive disposition so I apologise Yours sincerely Power-C*nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morsefull Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I thought i should say that i bought a mint U.K. made ABM C115-500 EVO from this seller and he is a nice guy. I play in a church and it gets used 3/4 times a week and it's not missed a beat (unlike me). I'm very happy with it and would recommend him as a seller. Oh , and you pronounce it "dud..lie.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='341071' date='Nov 30 2008, 12:55 PM'][snip] ... a bidder putting £389.99 and another bidder @ £399.99 smacks of shill bidding to me![/quote] Late to the thread, and it's often difficult to analyse auction bidding after the event, but I can't see the shill bidding on this one. By the time Bidder 11 slaps down his £389.99 there have already been 10 other bidders. Bidder 12 is presumably the £399.99 and the bid is that figure because eBay automatically adds £10 to the previous bid; Bidder 12 never actually placed a bid for that amount. The eventual winner gets into a small-scale final-seconds bidding war against Bidder 13 which takes the total to £436. Incidentally, I'm not a Fender fan and I don't much like sunburst finishes, but that is a truly beautiful bass. It may only say "Fender" in small letters on the headstock, but I reckon that's a pretty fair price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBeefChief Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Clarky' post='341411' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:07 PM']Lice?[/quote] Just counted all my possesions. 97, but that's including the corpses in the basement. I probably shouldn't declare those though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeat Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Clarky' post='341411' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:07 PM']Lice?[/quote] Seaside nippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='341449' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM']Incidentally, I'm not a Fender fan and I don't much like sunburst finishes, but that is a truly beautiful bass. It may only say "Fender" in small letters on the headstock, but I reckon that's a pretty fair price.[/quote] With all due respect to the majesty of the hallowed JV, my SQ p!sses all over it aesthetically: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31527"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31527[/url] And curse me to hell & back but I think I'm going to have to let it go - 3 Ps is too many when you never gig the buggers. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='gareth' post='341497' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:40 PM']And on what experience do you base this opinion please?[/quote] I sell loads on Ebay. Plainly he's quite correct. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Bassassin' post='341508' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:44 PM']I sell loads on Ebay. Plainly he's quite correct. J.[/quote] Well I would have agreed with the ‘chief until about 2 months ago when MissBWUK started selling loads of her stuff on my ebay account, and currently I have 52 active auctions… I still f***ing hate it (because of the nice little monopoly they’ve got going on with paypal, and the ever increasing fees...) but it’s the best way to shift stuff you don’t want. EDIT: anyone want some clothes? [url="http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/fleabassuk"]http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/fleabassuk[/url] - mostly sh*t, but then you'd be shocked at some of the sh*t that people buy off ebay Edited November 30, 2008 by benwhiteuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='341449' date='Nov 30 2008, 09:49 PM']Late to the thread, and it's often difficult to analyse auction bidding after the event, but I can't see the shill bidding on this one. By the time Bidder 11 slaps down his £389.99 there have already been 10 other bidders. Bidder 12 is presumably the £399.99 and the bid is that figure because eBay automatically adds £10 to the previous bid; Bidder 12 never actually placed a bid for that amount. The eventual winner gets into a small-scale final-seconds bidding war against Bidder 13 which takes the total to £436. Incidentally, I'm not a Fender fan and I don't much like sunburst finishes, but that is a truly beautiful bass. It may only say "Fender" in small letters on the headstock, but I reckon that's a pretty fair price.[/quote] [quote name='gareth' post='341490' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:37 PM']I don't see anything wrong with this auction. The bass is a nice condition JV precision and the final price is in line with recent sales.[/quote] I have no disagreement with the seller or the final price, it is worth what it is worth. However it ALWAYS sets alarm bells off when you have a bidder (i.e. bidder 11) putting in a bid of £389.99... £389.99... who 'genuinely' puts in a bid of £389.99 if they truly want to win something? Nobody, "not ever" puts a bid in of £XX9.99 if they want to win; that is a bid set to ensure that your shill bid is just below what you genuinely want. I've seen it soooooo many times you wouldn't believe it and if you don't trump that bid it is equally amazing how many 2nd chance offers you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='341403' date='Nov 30 2008, 08:59 PM']Ebay is for c**ts. I'd never buy or sell anything on that f***ing thing.[/quote] Ebay is ace just admit it...... Maybe you had a bad experience there when a young child ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='341536' date='Nov 30 2008, 11:21 PM']I have no disagreement with the seller or the final price, it is worth what it is worth. However it ALWAYS sets alarm bells off when you have a bidder (i.e. bidder 11) putting in a bid of £389.99... £389.99... who 'genuinely' puts in a bid of £389.99 if they truly want to win something? Nobody, "not ever" puts a bid in of £XX9.99 if they want to win; that is a bid set to ensure that your shill bid is just below what you genuinely want. I've seen it soooooo many times you wouldn't believe it and if you don't trump that bid it is equally amazing how many 2nd chance offers you get. [/quote] No argument there - £389.99 is a bloody silly bid, and I've seen plenty of those too. But if he's a shill bidder then he's left in late in the auction to start trying to ramp things up, he only does it the once, and he doesn't push the final price to anywhere unexpected. Conspiracy or cock-up? My default setting is to assume cock-up. Unless there's a grassy knoll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 [quote name='Bassassin' post='341489' date='Nov 30 2008, 10:37 PM']With all due respect to the majesty of the hallowed JV, my SQ p!sses all over it aesthetically: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31527"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31527[/url] And curse me to hell & back but I think I'm going to have to let it go - 3 Ps is too many when you never gig the buggers. J.[/quote] And no argument there, either. That is truly gorgeous, Jon. As it happens, I DO gig with P-basses. Two of them. A Lakland Bob Glaub (black, strung with rounds) and a Lakland Duck Dunn (CAR, strung with flats). Which rather prohibits me offering to buy your Squier. Squire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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