naxos10 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 It' a shame to happen to a bass you revered so much but take heart from Jon's comments and I'm sure things will be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, discreet said: Just get rid of everything except for the 4-string P bass, and play that. You're wasting time. Edit: JOKE. Sorry. To be fair it would have been a much more serious financial disaster if that had broken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Not a great thing to happen. Would love an uberhorn, but maybe not so much now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Woodinblack said: Not a great thing to happen. Would love an uberhorn, but maybe not so much now! Don't let Bridgehouse's cack-handed fettling put you off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, discreet said: Don't let Bridgehouse's cack-handed fettling put you off! It’s an incredible bass. And it’s beautiful to play (apart from the splinters now ) Jons view is this is a catastrophic truss rod failure - I tend to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said: Jons view is this is a catastrophic truss rod failure - I tend to agree In all seriousness, yes. It's very difficult to physically break a neck in that way, regardless of cack-handedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, discreet said: In all seriousness, yes. It's very difficult to physically break a neck in that way, regardless of cack-handedness. Unless your truss rod has an attack of the suicidals which mine seems to have done! Then again, maybe my bass committed self destruction to stop my cack-handed playing - sort of like the ultimate act of an instrument trying to avoid being tortured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said: Unless your truss rod has an attack of the suicidals which mine seems to have done! Then again, maybe my bass committed self destruction to stop my cack-handed playing - sort of like the ultimate act of an instrument trying to avoid being tortured It sounds like the best course of action would be to let someone else look after it - I'm happy to step up. I'm generous like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, BreadBin said: It sounds like the best course of action would be to let someone else look after it - I'm happy to step up. I'm generous like that. I wouldn’t want you to be subject to the almighty cracking noise I heard last night. It was the most terrifying noise I’ve heard.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The59Sound Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) What gauge were the Chromes? If they were .105 or above, that's a hell of a tension change from TIs. EDIT: You state in your first post you gave the truss rod more tension? Wouldn't you give more relief since the Chromes are putting more tension on the neck? Edited October 30, 2018 by The59Sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, The59Sound said: What gauge were the Chromes? If they were .105 or above, that's a hell of a tension change from TIs. EDIT: You state in your first post you gave the truss rod more tension? Wouldn't you give more relief since the Chromes are putting more tension on the neck? If you tighten the truss rod you are removing relief and counteracting the increased tension of the strings. Chromes aren’t a huge tension change from TIs in reality - after installing the action had increased by no more than a mm (after having time to settle) Adding a bit of tension to the rod to remove the added relief from the new strings should have been fine: Righty tighty, lefty loosey. The string action did indeed come done by about a mm - but 15/20 mins later, massive cracking noise and there you go.. Funnily enough the action hasn’t changed a jot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Oh, and it was *less* than a 1/4 turn - I reckon 20 degrees max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said: If you tighten the truss rod you are removing relief and counteracting the increased tension of the strings. Correct It's definitely not something you have done wrong. Edit - and to have tightened it enough to have snapped the neck you would have had to really force it. Edited October 30, 2018 by BreadBin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: +1. Speaking as another recent victim to a complete truss rod failure, I probably adjusted mine about the same as Bridgehouse and came down the following morning to this.... My new neck is on it’s way from Mexico apparently. I know players who like their action like that - I reckon you could shift that one on.. Sadly I don’t know any players that like splinters after a gig... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: That wasn't even up the dusty end. I should have taken a photo of the height near the body. Certainly unplayable by my standards and the neck had a lovely loud 'truss rod disengaged' rattle about it. You could probably get a hoover nozzle under the dusty end to give it a good clear out then 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: Not a great thing to happen. Would love an uberhorn, but maybe not so much now! I have an Uberhorn. It is very lovely. It is rock solid. I would not suspect that this is anything other than sad times for one specific instrument. Absolutely gutting for the OP, obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, owen said: I have an Uberhorn. It is very lovely. It is rock solid. I would not suspect that this is anything other than sad times for one specific instrument. Absolutely gutting for the OP, obviously Agreed - don’t let this put you off a Shuker - they are sublime instruments. I’m just unlucky with this one and a rather naughty truss rod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have played or owned most of what is out there (not bragging, I am just a sad, obsessive git). I have landed on Shuker and not moved for many years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) But I am still gutted for you Edited October 30, 2018 by owen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, owen said: Buy I am still gutted for you It’ll get fixed and I’m sure Jon will do a stellar job. It’s funny how our emotions are affected by stuff though - I don’t know whether I would actually trust it live again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Difficult I know, but once he's had a look at it, he might be able to offer an explanation as to why it did what it did and that might allay your fears. Haha I suspect it will be “Ah, yes, you are a cack-handed idiot” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: ...he might be able to offer an explanation... 'No refunds.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, discreet said: 'No refunds.' He doesn’t have an office in Peckham you know Edited October 30, 2018 by Bridgehouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said: He doesn’t have an office in Penckham you know I dont know where that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehouse Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, discreet said: I dont know where that is. Edited because it seems everything inanimate hates me at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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