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12 minutes ago, PJ-Bassist said:

Given the current pace of my custom build with Jon it wouldn't surprise me if he was still waiting for the repair work to be done :).

He’s a busy man! What are you having done PJ? I’ve just spec’d Mine with him.... feel free to PM me rather than hijack this thread if you like.... 😃

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3 minutes ago, bassfan said:

He’s a busy man! What are you having done PJ? I’ve just spec’d Mine with him.... feel free to PM me rather than hijack this thread if you like.... 😃

Haha yeah I'll PM you but will just clarify on this thread that I have changed specification on him multiple times which has delayed proceedings :).

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4 hours ago, odysseus said:

Amen to that... I always use the local luthier to deal with that sort of shenanigans...

I used to think like that until a few weeks ago.

With the very hot days we had over summer,  the guitars I had paid to be set up were unplayable in a few days.

The necks had bowed quite badly.

I tweaked a couple very carefully and after a while they settled back again.

Really nothing to worry about as long as you are careful.

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1 hour ago, BigRedX said:

Also given that the OP hasn't been on Basschat since the end of July we may never know.

I'm not sure I can live without knowing if this was resolved.  I'm tempted to ask Jon directly hahaha

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Bridgehouse Grand Master

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You may all be wondering why it took so long... well, apart from Jon repairing in between his normal work so as not to delay any of his orders (we agreed this up front), he sent me through a full list of what he's had to do to repair it.

Y'all ready for this?

1. Made a jig to rout off the fretboard. The phenolic is extremely hard so was a bit of a job to rout it off the body without causing any damage to the rest of the guitar, so i made a kind of giant mortice block to put the bass in so the router could be supported from above, the neck be adjusted from beneath to get it flat and the same depth to rout from. Steady work but it routed off ok.
2. Made another jig to re-rout the recess in the body for the new fretboard, so it went in cleanly and a nice tight joint.
3. Sanded up the neck surface to remove any last parts of phenolic and sanded up the body centre.
4. Made another jig to support the router so i could rout away the fillet of wood that sits above the truss rod in its cavity.
5. removed the truss rod, it came out ok, the small piece of the head veneer that was above it broke away (thought it might) but i glued it back.
6. Clamped and glued the headstock break, it went back together pretty well, slight delamination of the polyester basecoat but main thing is the crack glued up well.
7. Routed the truss rod channel clean and made a section of wood to glue in it. I enlarged the channel so the new piece was only glued into new wood. Glued it in then planed and sanded it flush with the neck face.
8. Routed a new truss rod channel, installed the rod and a new fillet of wood above it. Planed and sanded it flush to the fretboard face.
9. Made a new fretboard. Sanded up the phenolic then machined it to the correct taper to match the board taper, cut it square at the nut and left an overhang at the end of the body, made sure it was a tight fit in the body recess. 
10. Measured up and routed the cavities in the board for the saddle units, just part depth so i could rout them deeper once the board was on without using a template.
11. Cut the fretboard edge slots for the fret position partial lines. Inserted wood, sanded flush. Drilled and inserted the side dots
12. Used masking tape to mask off the surrounding areas then Glued the board on with epoxy. The clamp of course has to extend from the nut to the bridge.
13. Carefully filed back the excess of phenolic to the edge of the neck (only a slight overhang) and sanded it into the shape of the neck.
14. Routed the saddle insert cavities deeper, routed the end of the board to the body shape
15 Set the bass on a jig and sanded the radius down the whole board, went through the grade and finished with the buffing wheel to a semi-gloss.
16. Drilled the string through holes.
17. Sanded the whole bass, flatted the lacquer back then masked off the board.
18. Sprayed new gloss lacquer over the entire instrument.
19. Flatted lacquer back and polished. 
20. Cleaned up the board edge and then rolled the edges.
21. cleaned the nut slot and made a new nut.
22. Reassembled the bridge units, hardware back on and wired up the bass.
23. Strung up, cut the new nut, shaped, polished and glued it in.
24. Set it up and adjusted.
25. Noticed an earthing issue with the east circuit, so sorted that.
26. Made a new truss rod cover.
 
It seems I really did gone and bust it proper big style... :shok:
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2 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said:

You may all be wondering why it took so long... well, apart from Jon repairing in between his normal work so as not to delay any of his orders (we agreed this up front), he sent me through a full list of what he's had to do to repair it.

Y'all ready for this?

1. Made a jig to rout off the fretboard. The phenolic is extremely hard so was a bit of a job to rout it off the body without causing any damage to the rest of the guitar, so i made a kind of giant mortice block to put the bass in so the router could be supported from above, the neck be adjusted from beneath to get it flat and the same depth to rout from. Steady work but it routed off ok.
2. Made another jig to re-rout the recess in the body for the new fretboard, so it went in cleanly and a nice tight joint.
3. Sanded up the neck surface to remove any last parts of phenolic and sanded up the body centre.
4. Made another jig to support the router so i could rout away the fillet of wood that sits above the truss rod in its cavity.
5. removed the truss rod, it came out ok, the small piece of the head veneer that was above it broke away (thought it might) but i glued it back.
6. Clamped and glued the headstock break, it went back together pretty well, slight delamination of the polyester basecoat but main thing is the crack glued up well.
7. Routed the truss rod channel clean and made a section of wood to glue in it. I enlarged the channel so the new piece was only glued into new wood. Glued it in then planed and sanded it flush with the neck face.
8. Routed a new truss rod channel, installed the rod and a new fillet of wood above it. Planed and sanded it flush to the fretboard face.
9. Made a new fretboard. Sanded up the phenolic then machined it to the correct taper to match the board taper, cut it square at the nut and left an overhang at the end of the body, made sure it was a tight fit in the body recess. 
10. Measured up and routed the cavities in the board for the saddle units, just part depth so i could rout them deeper once the board was on without using a template.
11. Cut the fretboard edge slots for the fret position partial lines. Inserted wood, sanded flush. Drilled and inserted the side dots
12. Used masking tape to mask off the surrounding areas then Glued the board on with epoxy. The clamp of course has to extend from the nut to the bridge.
13. Carefully filed back the excess of phenolic to the edge of the neck (only a slight overhang) and sanded it into the shape of the neck.
14. Routed the saddle insert cavities deeper, routed the end of the board to the body shape
15 Set the bass on a jig and sanded the radius down the whole board, went through the grade and finished with the buffing wheel to a semi-gloss.
16. Drilled the string through holes.
17. Sanded the whole bass, flatted the lacquer back then masked off the board.
18. Sprayed new gloss lacquer over the entire instrument.
19. Flatted lacquer back and polished. 
20. Cleaned up the board edge and then rolled the edges.
21. cleaned the nut slot and made a new nut.
22. Reassembled the bridge units, hardware back on and wired up the bass.
23. Strung up, cut the new nut, shaped, polished and glued it in.
24. Set it up and adjusted.
25. Noticed an earthing issue with the east circuit, so sorted that.
26. Made a new truss rod cover.
 
It seems I really did gone and bust it proper big style... :shok:

So, what took so long?   smiley

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Bridgehouse Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, mentalextra said:

Until he starts using a breaker bar on the truss rod again! 😀

Steady now - wasn't me guv'nor. 

I blame the rubbish German engineered truss rod. They are notorious for their cheap shonky engineering and use of cheese for metal..

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