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Opinions please - Bass based on my friend's Guitar builds?


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On 03/11/2018 at 10:58, Painy said:

Some good points there. 

The lower frequencies of a bass don't interact so well as those on a guitar so individual sadles would certainly seem to make more sense. If that's the case then a non proprietary bridge might be an easier option to also allow for adjustment. If it's a bridge with through body stringing then it would also still maintain the direct transference of vibrations to the body that these wooden guitar bridges are looking to achieve. 

The neck profile is surprisingly comfortable on these guitars but I'm of a similar mind that it's possibly not as well suited for bass. I do personally like a fairly shallow front to back profile but I'm actually thinking an asymmetric profile could be quite nice. 

The guitars look amazing but I hate that headstock. Given the very high level of design and organic shaping everywhere else on the guitar the squared off shape looks undesigned and an after(un)thought. Can’t wait to see how the bass looks!

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Just spotted the hollow headstock... interesting.  Weight/neck-dive reduction? Headstock design is one of the hardest bits of a guitar to get right aesthetically. And we all have a personal list of the brands we reckon have failed!

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56 minutes ago, TrevorR said:

Just spotted the hollow headstock... interesting.  Weight/neck-dive reduction? Headstock design is one of the hardest bits of a guitar to get right aesthetically. And we all have a personal list of the brands we reckon have failed!

Looking at the headstock channel, it may be for the truss rod adjustment?

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On the topic of headstocks, I think it looks fine. As pointed out, an original headstock is super difficult to achieve and I have seen many which just do not work. This one does for me. 

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58 minutes ago, owen said:

Is it worth the man himself signing up and joining the thread?

I've already sent him a link so he can view it. Maybe he'll read your suggestion anyway but I'll mention it to him. 😉

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It's been a bit of a nightmare trying to get together in the lead up to Christmas (especially as we both have young kids) so not had a chance to get much further than chatting about it so far to be honest. 

Hoping to get our heads together at some point over the next few days though if we can. If we manage to come up with anything tangible - sketches or what have you - I'll post them up here to see what you guys think. 

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Have to say, that I really like this understated looks of the instrument. I also love the comment on fretless. She certainly should have a plain dark fretboard, thank you.

The fretless in the following pictures was made by a local luthier Kristian Ukkonen. The knobs control pickup coils (single/series/parallel) and a step attenuator. The 36" neck is very close to a block with rounded edges, a joy to play.

https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/136517-fretless-porn/?page=14&tab=comments#comment-3590248

https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/160340-vigier-porn/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-3590237

It is very true, that the design is always very difficult but some key ideas I discussed with him were: long upper horn for stability and reach, an Alembic-like boattail to get the bridge as far back as possible, passive, and hollow to get the weight down: 3.12 kg (under 6.9 lbs) and 3.66 kg (8 lbs) with a strap. Finnish birch, walnut and blackwood (https://www.madinter.com/en/). It plays far better than I do but this was a chance of "once in a lifetime".

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Do you have to poke strings through that wooden block every time you remove them or does it release them somehow? If it's the former then I'd bin that feature off, looks nice but would be a PITA. 

 

Otherwise stunning instruments though. Like another poster said I'd go piezo only and fretless, the overall aesthetic would suit less clutter IMO.

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