grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I watched Cliff Richard on the Oneshow last night. 78 and still performing! There must be a name for the compulsion to keep on performing and not gracefully retire. I do have friends who seem to need the adulation from performing. They just can't stop, it's something akin to attention seeking. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Performing, I much prefer to stand/sit at the back and I enjoy that supporting role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Outstayingwelcomeitis? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, bassace said: Outstayingwelcomeitis? True in some cases but to the contrary in others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, grandad said: True in some cases but to the contrary in others. In the same way that we don’t all catch flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) You are not Cliff Richard. Remember this and do not try and imitate him. Edited November 23, 2018 by ahpook 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, ahpook said: You are not Cliff Richard. Remember this and do not try and imitate him. Only in the privacy of my own home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I dont have much time for Cliff's music, he was a late 50s/60s artist to me, but to suggest someone should stop doing something they love seems strange. If what he was doing was important to well being in any way (Yes I know ) then yes, give it up, but its just music and if he and the audience enjoy it then why not? Its his job after all. My old man loved his work as a carpenter and did his job till he was 76, not cos he was desperate for the money but because he loved it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 I wasn't suggesting that he or anyone should give up something they enjoy, it's just that I'm intrigued when I observe it as I don't seem to have this need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 'RollingStone Syndrome'? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super al Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Confession time - I actually like the 2 tunes I've heard from his new album, I wouldn't go and buy it but I don't hate it. Do I have to cancel my Basschat membership now or will there be a period of 'cooling off'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacopo San Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Or maybe is just people who like what they do? 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBus Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, super al said: Confession time - I actually like the 2 tunes I've heard from his new album, I wouldn't go and buy it but I don't hate it. Do I have to cancel my Basschat membership now or will there be a period of 'cooling off'? If you go on to say that you like Peri Como, Andy Williams and Jack Jones then a recommendation might have to be put to admins to review your membership. 😄 As has been said already, if someone enjoys what they do why not carry on. Donald Sutherland has just played a major role in 'Trust' on't tele aged 83. Did a damn good job too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 My late wife was a Cliff fan and I took her to see him some 20ish years ago. Like him or not, it was a superb performance, fautless. He has made a very good career for himself in show-business. As a teenager in the late 50's/60's he was the British Elvis and along with The Shadows helped kick off our music in black and white on the new TV pop music shows once a week. Who'd have thought then that he'd still be around now making music to a very loyal mostly geriatric fan-base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, grandad said: I wasn't suggesting that he or anyone should give up something they enjoy, it's just that I'm intrigued when I observe it as I don't seem to have this need. Is it a need though, or simply enjoyment in doing something? Physically draining pursuits would be too much for people in their 70s but singing is hardly one of them. Perhaps he is not int golf or lawn bowls and would rather spend his time singing and recording, sounds like a good trade off to me. I dont think it has to be a need, it might simply be a way to fill in his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Maybe it's a facet that we all enjoy and some reside at the far end of the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Its been said before but worth re quoting..."You don't stop doing something because you get old, you get old because you stop doing something". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) - Edited March 2, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I saw Cliff when he headlined Wembley Stadium. Cracking gig. He is of the generation who put on a show and entertain the audience. In reply to the OP, IMO it is because for some people being a musician/performer is not what they do, it's what they are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Another perspective: a good friend and fellow BassChatter was Alvin Stardust's bass player for a number of years. I don't doubt that Alvin enjoyed what he did, but the primary motivation was apparently financial. He didn't write his own songs so didn't benefit from royalties. I believe there were other factors at work too but all the same... Not sure how many of his songs Cliff writes, but could be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I watched the documentary on The Damned (Don't you wish we were dead) last night. It was a combination of all the usual reasons that musos keep going. Financial necessity plays a big part, especially if they have been ripped off by the record company, management or other band members. But the main thing that came over from them was what else could they do? There's no way Captain Sensible could have retired at 50 and done a regular job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: I saw Cliff when he headlined Wembley Stadium. Cracking gig. He is of the generation who put on a show and entertain the audience. In reply to the OP, IMO it is because for some people being a musician/performer is not what they do, it's what they are. Yes I think you're right. I'd put Brucie & Doddy there. Edited November 23, 2018 by grandad grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 It's what keeps him going; he loves it. Same reason most on here will travel 60 miles to a gig on a Saturday, spend 2 hours setting up, play for 3 hours, spend another hour breaking down, then drive home, and maybe get £30. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, ambient said: It's what keeps him going; he loves it. Same reason most on here will travel 60 miles to a gig on a Saturday, spend 2 hours setting up, play for 3 hours, spend another hour breaking down, then drive home, and maybe get £30. Methinks my commitment has waned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 hours ago, mikel said: I dont have much time for Cliff's music, That's OK, he probably doesn't listen to much of your either! 😁😁😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylie Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, mikel said: I dont have much time for Cliff's music, he was a late 50s/60s artist to me, but to suggest someone should stop doing something they love seems strange. If what he was doing was important to well being in any way (Yes I know ) then yes, give it up, but its just music and if he and the audience enjoy it then why not? Its his job after all. My old man loved his work as a carpenter and did his job till he was 76, not cos he was desperate for the money but because he loved it. I agree. I think it was Mick Jagger who replied, when asked when the Stones would 'act their age' and retire, 'Has anyone asked Muddy Waters that?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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