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Helix Floor/LT/HX/Stomp/PodGo owners' Club - Tips, Ideas & Patches


Al Krow

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I would say that if you are thinking of keeping the MB3 as your main preamp pedal, then why go for the HX Stomp?

 

Surely it's a wee bit overkill, when you could just get the HX FX instead, and run it through the loop of the MB3.

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I only use the Stomp. I have different patches designed for different songs/styles and basses. I use two paths, a TRS from the main out to the desk for my ‘sound’, then the other out the send to an amp (if I’m using one) as a monitor- and for ‘look’ as even some band mates are weirded out if you don’t have an amp on stage.

I don’t feel/see the need for anything else.

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1 hour ago, MartinB said:

The Stomp's outputs are balanced, so you can run them straight to the desk. They're just TRS sockets, rather than the XLR ones on the average DI box. Just needs the right cable, or an adapter something like this:


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Now that makes a world of difference. 

Ta muchly @MartinB

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Hi all,

 

I think I’ve asked this before but I’m going to ask again with a few (limiting!) caveats.

 

My pedal board is very basic - Line 6 G30 wireless (standard Boss style power connector) into AB switch into HX Effects (with the “Line 6” power connector style). The AB switch is to allow me to use a cable rather than wireless without too much faff.

 

So I don’t need an insanely clever power supply with millions of outputs, just a simple device with as few as possible. I need 1A for the HX, and the right connector obviously, alongside another ~100mA for the G30.

 

At the moment they each have their own PSU, which is just messy and crap. Over the weekend I bought a True Tone 1-Spot combo pack which seemed to be the perfect solution:

“Line 6” connector adaptor

Max 1.7A current capacity

Ability to cap off the unused plugs.

 

Brilliant.

 

It arrived today, and works brilliantly for the G30 (and even the AB switch should I so desire); the HX Effects, however, doesn’t power up at all. And plugging that in completely kills the power to the other two units.

 

WTF?

 

So… what other options are there which won’t break the bank, don’t have countless outputs and will actually bloody WORK with the HX?

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33 minutes ago, Merton said:

the HX Effects, however, doesn’t power up at all. And plugging that in completely kills the power to the other two units.

I am not familiar with the 1spot stuff, but if you have a look at this page

https://truetone.com/1-spot-accessories/

it seems to say that you need both a CL6 & CYR for the HX FX or HX Stomp ... might this be germane?

Sam x

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10 minutes ago, Merton said:

Ah! So it’s ineptitude on my part! @SamIAm you are a legend 😎

No ... it is not at all clear (IMHO).  I'm guessing that some of the older Line6 gear used centre positive, so they seem to have wired the CL6 to reverse polarity!

I saw on another site that the CL6 is specced as  "CL6 – (5.5x2.1mm barrel input, 5.5x2.5 barrel output; reverse polarity)
Green – for Line 6 DL4/M9/etc. and some Eventide pedals." I never would have thought of it!

 

As it happens I've a 2.1mm to 2.5mm adapter on its way to me so I can power my HX Stomp from a normal pedal PSU ... I must check it does not do the polarity reversal also!

 

Sam x

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2 minutes ago, SamIAm said:

As it happens I've a 2.1mm to 2.5mm adapter on its way to me so I can power my HX Stomp from a normal pedal PSU ... I must check it does not do the polarity reversal also!

 

Sam x

Damn and blast it ... the one heading to me is from Rockport and on reading the fine details it also does the switch to centre positive ... I'm either going to have to source a polarity reverser thing ... or just chop it midway and resolder in the correct way! :facepalm:

 

Sam x

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I have a 1-Spot powering an HX Stomp from the rightmost power outlet, other outlets being used for a MIDI switch, HPF/LPF, and Harley-Benton wireless. Just used a 2.1 to 2.5 non-reversing lead (chopped the end off a 2.1-2.1 and put on a 2.5).

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Well when I got the correct adaptor (thanks again @SamIAm!) it powered up beautifully. And then created a bloody lovely hum which I presume is due to the HX power not being isolated from the G30 wireless power. Back to the drawing board…

 

One of these looks good, along with a current doubler and the two Truetone adaptors to get into the HX…:

 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_powerplant_iso_1ac_pro_modular.htm

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36 minutes ago, Merton said:

Well when I got the correct adaptor (thanks again @SamIAm!)

And thanks to our discussion I realised I also needed one for my HX Stomp adapter ... it arrived today :)

Sam x

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Posted (edited)

Quick question to the masses. I use the Stomp powered by a portable USB battery (https://amzn.eu/d/jdfMPtF) as part of my busking set up. It’s great. 


(If any other interest, have a look at this thread here - 

 

 

)

 

My question. I need a very thin and very small board to stick the Stomp and USB power supply on to in order to keep them off the ground/general filth + keep them secure. I’ll stick the battery and Stomp to it with Velcro.
 

I don’t want any other pedals or stuff to go on there, portability is key. I want to be able to still throw the board with Stomp and USB power on it into my gig bag pocket. 
 

Any suggestions for a board?

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23 minutes ago, funkle said:

 I need a very thin and very small board to stick the Stomp and USB power supply on to in order to keep them off the ground/general filth

Any suggestions for a board?


Maybe a Pedaltrain Booster would work? I've seen people add feet to these and use them as pedalboards. The PB2 looks about the right size to have the Stomp on the top, and the battery velcro-ed underneath.

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1 hour ago, Merton said:

Well when I got the correct adaptor (thanks again @SamIAm!) it powered up beautifully. And then created a bloody lovely hum which I presume is due to the HX power not being isolated from the G30 wireless power. Back to the drawing board…

 

One of these looks good, along with a current doubler and the two Truetone adaptors to get into the HX…:

 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_powerplant_iso_1ac_pro_modular.htm

I use to power an hx stomp plus a midiswitcher with a 1spot. Just put a Joyo isolator to the wireless to isolate it from the stomp. The Joyo isolator is around £10

 

 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/joyo_zgp_noise_blocker.htm?glp=1&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwmYCzBhA6EiwAxFwfgEUrkAow5dQKexAhn3BFP_uUDJtN70wYGabP9IKbmWbq2w28n9edoBoCUQQQAvD_BwE

 

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3 minutes ago, ordep said:

I use to power an hx stomp plus a midiswitcher with a 1spot. Just put a Joyo isolator to the wireless to isolate it from the stomp. The Joyo isolator is around £10

 

 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/joyo_zgp_noise_blocker.htm?glp=1&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwmYCzBhA6EiwAxFwfgEUrkAow5dQKexAhn3BFP_uUDJtN70wYGabP9IKbmWbq2w28n9edoBoCUQQQAvD_BwE

 

Basschat to the rescue again!! Thank you @ordep 😎

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45 minutes ago, MartinB said:


Maybe a Pedaltrain Booster would work? I've seen people add feet to these and use them as pedalboards. The PB2 looks about the right size to have the Stomp on the top, and the battery velcro-ed underneath.


I’ll investigate. Thanks Martin!

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Right, the Pedaltrain PT PB-2 looks ideal - exactly the right size, the battery pack will fit underneath too - I'll velcro it on. I've just ordered one and some rubber feet too. It's also cheaper than the G Mini Bone. I'll report back once I try it out!

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14 hours ago, funkle said:

My question. I need a very thin and very small board to stick the Stomp and USB power supply on to in order to keep them off the ground/general filth + keep them secure. I’ll stick the battery and Stomp to it with Velcro.
 

I don’t want any other pedals or stuff to go on there, portability is key. I want to be able to still throw the board with Stomp and USB power on it into my gig bag pocket. 
 

Any suggestions for a board?

 

A piece of 12mm plywood, maybe with some stick-on feet on it?

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30 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

A piece of 12mm plywood, maybe with some stick-on feet on it?


I thought about it, but wondered if it might warp. I’ll see how the Pedaltrain booster idea goes first. 

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Ok, the Pedaltrain PB-2 was too small. Couldn’t fit the power supply underneath. However, the PB-3 was perfect for my modest needs. I stuck some rubber feet on the bottom and I’m good. 
 

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Posted (edited)

Lovely ultra small rig @funkle!  What are you using between USB Brick & Stomp?

My setup is larger (What with MIDI and Expression); my large power brick can directly output 9v to power the Stomp, but I might investigate the MyVolts Ripcord to allow for a smaller USB brick.

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Sam x

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24 minutes ago, SamIAm said:

Lovely ultra small rig @funkle!  What are you using between USB Brick & Stomp?

My setup is larger (What with MIDI and Expression); my large power brick can directly output 9v to power the Stomp, but I might investigate the MyVolts Ripcord to allow for a smaller USB brick.

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Sam x

 

Yeah, I've got a cheap USB C cable in there hooking up to a MyVolts USB-C to 2.5mm 5v to 9v Step Up adapter. https://myvolts.co.uk/product/84651/myVolts_USB-C_PD_Step_Up_Tip_9V_c-ve_2.1mm_2.5mm

 

Warning, the MyVolts adapter/USB cable needs to be plugged into the USB power supply first for it to negotiate the correct voltage, and then after that, plugged into the Stomp, for it to work.

 

Had a horrible minute or two when I first hooked everything up and it didn't work, even though the USB brick I bought definitely can put out 5A current over USB-C (at 5V, I didn't quite appreciate the importance of this at first). But I worked out that 1) it's probably putting out closer to 3A at 9V, which is fine, so it should work, and 2) that I needed to let the components talk to other a bit to negotiate things (something here about QC and PD protocol compatibility, as MyVolts explain on their website).

 

So it all worked out in the end. 

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