Roger2611 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fender-jazz-bass-guitar-made-in-japan-in-need-of-tlc/401653350103?epid=1924933726&hash=item5d8467bed7:g:MqcAAOSw8R9cDBzG Totally fake Fender Jazz, already bid up to £107.00...someone is going to be disappointed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I saw that when it was listed ,but wasn’t sure 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 It is a cheap Japanese copy, possibly a Hondo as the neck plate is smaller than a Fender one, it has had a truss rod cover on it and the bridge has screws at the front so it is definitely a low budget Japanese instrument and in it's current condition probably only worth a tenth of what it has been bid to. I have messaged the seller, his feedback score suggests he has had issues before, I will see if I get a response and if not I will report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Roger2611 said: It is a cheap Japanese copy, possibly a Hondo as the neck plate is smaller than a Fender one, it has had a truss rod cover on it and the bridge has screws at the front so it is definitely a low budget Japanese instrument and in it's current condition probably only worth a tenth of what it has been bid to. I have messaged the seller, his feedback score suggests he has had issues before, I will see if I get a response and if not I will report it. Yeah definitely now you’ve pointed it out 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstraker123 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The famous band member who owned it needs a new guitar tech ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Roger2611 said: It is a cheap Japanese copy, possibly a Hondo as the neck plate is smaller than a Fender one, it has had a truss rod cover on it and the bridge has screws at the front so it is definitely a low budget Japanese instrument and in it's current condition probably only worth a tenth of what it has been bid to. I have messaged the seller, his feedback score suggests he has had issues before, I will see if I get a response and if not I will report it. It's a Japanese copy - an old one, but actually not a particularly cheap or low-quality one. It's a Fujigen Gakki-built model 2365B, which would have likely been sold badged as Antoria, but might possibly have been Ibanez. This can be ID'd with a pretty high degree of certainty by the 3-part quartersawn neck construction and the neckplate, which has the MIJ stamp on the lower-half, as did all Fujigens from this era. The full-size tunes (Gotohs) point to Fujigen too. Sadly it's a wreck in its present state - usually when these get repainted, it's over the original poly 'burst, but the finishhas been stripped from this one. In this condition it's a sub-£50 project & fingers crossed the truss rod's not bu99ered - too bad people don't Google what a Fender should look like before they bid! Btw @Roger2611 - you won't find a Hondo Jazz with MIJ on the neckplate - because they weren't! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 09-Dec-18 at 14:39:26 GMT, seller added the following information: HI I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS IS NOT A FENDER GUITAR BY 2 PEOPLE AND I HAVE HAD 5 BUY IT NOW REQUESTS FROM OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GUITARS SO TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THIS IS BEING SOLD AS A GUITAR FOR TLC AND NOT A GAURANTEED FENDER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Gauranteed. isn't that the name of a Level 42 album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinorange Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Bassassin said: It's a Japanese copy - an old one, but actually not a particularly cheap or low-quality one. It's a Fujigen Gakki-built model 2365B, which would have likely been sold badged as Antoria, but might possibly have been Ibanez. This can be ID'd with a pretty high degree of certainty by the 3-part quartersawn neck construction and the neckplate, which has the MIJ stamp on the lower-half, as did all Fujigens from this era. The full-size tunes (Gotohs) point to Fujigen too. Sadly it's a wreck in its present state - usually when these get repainted, it's over the original poly 'burst, but the finishhas been stripped from this one. In this condition it's a sub-£50 project & fingers crossed the truss rod's not bu99ered - too bad people don't Google what a Fender should look like before they bid! Btw @Roger2611 - you won't find a Hondo Jazz with MIJ on the neckplate - because they weren't! It’s lovely to see an expert at work. Genius. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 hours ago, vinorange said: It’s lovely to see an expert at work. Genius. Thanks! I tend to see it as a rather pitiful borderline obsessive-compulsive psychological disorder - but at least it doesn't hurt anyone... 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 22 hours ago, Bassassin said: It's a Japanese copy - an old one, but actually not a particularly cheap or low-quality one. It's a Fujigen Gakki-built model 2365B, which would have likely been sold badged as Antoria, but might possibly have been Ibanez. This can be ID'd with a pretty high degree of certainty by the 3-part quartersawn neck construction and the neckplate, which has the MIJ stamp on the lower-half, as did all Fujigens from this era. The full-size tunes (Gotohs) point to Fujigen too. Sadly it's a wreck in its present state - usually when these get repainted, it's over the original poly 'burst, but the finishhas been stripped from this one. In this condition it's a sub-£50 project & fingers crossed the truss rod's not bu99ered - too bad people don't Google what a Fender should look like before they bid! Btw @Roger2611 - you won't find a Hondo Jazz with MIJ on the neckplate - because they weren't! I will certainly bow to your greater knowledge on these basses, one query you say the Hondo's would not have a MIJ neckplate, I had a Hondo Precision with the thinner MIJ neckplate on it? was it only Jazzes that were not made in Japan or not made at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Roger2611 said: I will certainly bow to your greater knowledge on these basses, one query you say the Hondo's would not have a MIJ neckplate, I had a Hondo Precision with the thinner MIJ neckplate on it? was it only Jazzes that were not made in Japan or not made at all? You 100% sure it was a Hondo? The 70s copies were made in Korea, by Samick - these all had blank neckplates & weren't great quality. J copies seem to be pretty uncommon compared to Ps but they would've been MIK too. Some later Hondos were MIJ, original designs and some better-quality copies in the Professional & Revival series. These were early 80s (& possibly very late 70s) and probably wouldn't have had Fender-style headstocks. I've seen Precisions but never a J in these ranges. Would assume they probably made them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 19 hours ago, Bassassin said: You 100% sure it was a Hondo? The 70s copies were made in Korea, by Samick - these all had blank neckplates & weren't great quality. J copies seem to be pretty uncommon compared to Ps but they would've been MIK too. Some later Hondos were MIJ, original designs and some better-quality copies in the Professional & Revival series. These were early 80s (& possibly very late 70s) and probably wouldn't have had Fender-style headstocks. I've seen Precisions but never a J in these ranges. Would assume they probably made them though. Yeah 100% sure it was a Hondo as I removed the decal from the headstock and replaced it with a Fender one, I had the frets removed as it was largely unplayable when I got it, then realised I didn't like the fact it weighed about 12 lbs so disposed of it for next to nothing, I wonder if it could have been a Korean one which had gained a MIJ neck plate as I assume Hondo stayed with the smaller neck plate across build platforms? It's a shame as I had a load of images of it including the neck plate but lost them when an old hard drive gave up the ghost! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinorange Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 It’s back up with a different seller who also doesn’t know much about guitars. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F312377086090 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I’ve sent them this message - This has been listed before it is a cheap Japanese copy from the 70s not a 60s Fender. There are many identifying features to identify a genuine Fender, pictures are easily found on the internet. Compare your bass to these and you will see that this is not the genuine article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I like the reference to "an original 60s Fender - made in Japan!" Er?!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Better to report the listing to ebay... there's a button at the top right of the description section of each listing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplumber Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Aready reported 2 day's ago and pointed out to the seller what it was. Con man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 I have reported it again today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Me too Edited December 14, 2018 by ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The sad thing is that I would have loved this bass if it hadn't had the fake decal added to it and left in a well for 3 months. Judging by the state of it, I reckon the neck is shagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Otherwise I would have offered him a few danish kroner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinorange Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Roger2611 said: I have reported it again today Me too but it’s not been pulled by eBay. In fact I think he may have relisted it himself and once again there are a lot of bids. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273610910548 Very annoying as I’ve emailed him and he said he wasn’t a guitar expert but would wait to see what other people thought before doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan63 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 £168 already, multiple reports to ebay that it's fake and still it's there ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Also reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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