Mike Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 A very positive trip to the Bass Gallery today where Will couldn’t have been more helpful and helped me find some jazz 5s that my small hands can cope with! I liked the Bacchus Woodline DX5 (active) and a Handmade DX5 (passive). The neck sizes really suited my hands, and I quite fancy getting the passive Handmade and putting in a Sadowsky preamp. Just wondered if anyone here had any more info or experience with them - seems quite hard to find online! Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 A Friend of mine own a woodline (handmade one?) In translucent orange. It's dope. For the price I didn't find a better JB alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 They’re lovely. I had a 02-strong model, 36” jazz. Fantastic build and sound. Only sold it because it had a beautiful pearl binding around the top but no forearm cutaway. Also had a Twentyfour model which was superb, too. Think I sold it to buy a car a while ago. So yes I highly recommend them 👍🏼 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I've had 2 and they were both superb. Excellent build quality and great vfm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 All the Bacchus basses I’ve seen online have looked fantastic. Been eyeing up that red one on the Bass Gallery site for a while now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 There are quite a few on Reverb, but they are all at shops in Japan and therefore you face a hefty import duty and high shipping costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, CameronJ said: All the Bacchus basses I’ve seen online have looked fantastic. Been eyeing up that red one on the Bass Gallery site for a while now! Stay away!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I posted up last week about a 33” scale Woodline Bacchus I looked at via Joe at ‘The Guitar Den’ near Petersfield. Very well made and finished. This line is constructed in the Philippines under Bacchus admin and frankly for £650 with a soft case, not too shabby at all. Looking at Bacchus basses on EBay will show a huge variety of models but all overseas sales, mainly Japan. Edited December 14, 2018 by mybass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 @bass_japan_directUsed to import these for customers, not sure if that's still the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I think they do arrange that from Japan. Guitar Den imports them to the U.K. but in what quantity I’m not sure. I think if a particular Japanese made bass is needed it has to be ordered due to them not being mass produced in Japan anyway, all-hand done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Yeah I ordered my TwentyFour directly from a chap at Deviser Japan (who I think own the bacchus brand?) and he tracked one down for me. The 02-Strong Jazz I got from Ishibashi U-Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 With regard to my comment of import duty, it is being removed from 1st February 2019 following anEU agreement. Probably need to get in quick before we leave the EU on 29th March2019, assuming that we still do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CameronJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Marcoelwray said: I want it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, CameronJ said: I want it!! So buy it ! https://japanguitar-handmade.com/fr/tous-les-produits/44-basse-electrique-bacchus-woodline-dx5-sakura-custom-2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Marcoelwray said: So buy it ! https://japanguitar-handmade.com/fr/tous-les-produits/44-basse-electrique-bacchus-woodline-dx5-sakura-custom-2017 I just saw the price and it made me want to cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I recently bought one from Japan. It's a Woodine Global (Indonesian) Special with an oil finish. The flame on the back of the neck is stunning! It's absolutely effortless to play. Has a pull-up Turbo boost on the tone control which sums the two pups in series. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I think that Bacchus is a serious Japanese bass brand. Their woodworking is at such a high level, that I could invest on them with confidence. Overall, Japan has quality standards somehow built in to their community. My (limited) understanding is that Bacchus, moon, Sadowsky et al. who produce these jazz-on-steroids, play in a different field than Fenders, maybe custom shop excluded. I'll try to express the previous in another words: My expectation for Japanese quality level is very good, so I won't get a bad product, if not otherworldly flashy either. Americans (the F-word and some others), on the other hand may have a good day or not. So their quality is more prone to occasional defects that lower the overall expectations. I just have seen far too many pricey US basses that do not meet with their expected quality: neck pockets, loose parts, soldering problems, messy electronics, low quality components... I have felt like the quality check was not done properly or at all. Cost cutting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMoon Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, itu said: My expectation for Japanese quality level is very good, so I won't get a bad product, if not otherworldly flashy either. Americans (the F-word and some others), on the other hand may have a good day or not. So their quality is more prone to occasional defects that lower the overall expectations. I just have seen far too many pricey US basses that do not meet with their expected quality: neck pockets, loose parts, soldering problems, messy electronics, low quality components... I have felt like the quality check was not done properly or at all. Cost cutting? I have some experience with both Moon and Atelier Z Jazz Basses, although not yet with Bacchus. You are correct with their (Japanese) quality control and attention to detail. Superb workmanship and "not in your face" looks. I love them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 hours ago, NikNik said: I recently bought one from Japan. It's a Woodine Global (Indonesian) Special with an oil finish. The flame on the back of the neck is stunning! It's absolutely effortless to play. Has a pull-up Turbo boost on the tone control which sums the two pups in series. Beautiful looking bass that looks as though the trouble of importing was worthwhile. Can you tell us about the on costs, VAT, import duty, carriers handling charge, postage. I’m looking at one that wants £138 postage which seems outrageous even from Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Bass cost around £600, discounted from £1k due to slight swirl on control plate. £111 for shipping. HMRC took circa £150 and Parcelfarce took whatever they take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Thanks that information is really helpful. So it’s around £870 for an absolute cracker. Do you think HMRC charged to VAT on the delivery or is that VAT plus import duty? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybass Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I think its import duty plus the VAT on that for everything you've paid for regarding the bass, as in the bass cost and courier fees. (I think there is a Basschatter who is quite knowledgeable about this subject). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I am having trouble replying to this site via Android. If I reply, I get multiple quotes. Anyone else getting this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Import duty is due plus VAT on the freight, which is a dodgy freaking move! If you can pull anything off form under HMRC, good on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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