fleabag Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Yup, legally i'm not sure how it works, which is why i stipulated i could be wrong. So how do you come by the info that it's not a contract to buy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Ricky 4000 said: Oh, and it certainly wasn't my intention to include you as "that type of buyer". I didn't think that for a moment. As you alluded to in your previous posts on this thread - in many scenarios, there actually would have been more "buyer protection" available to you if you had agreed to pay via Paypal in advance, and of course, the fees are applied to the seller... I think most would agree that under the eBay/PP system, there's more protection for buyer's than seller's. To answer your question(ish) of whether it was odd or unusual for the seller to request PP payment prior to collection - in my opinion, no. It's not unusual. Of course, some sellers choose to go the other way, by insisting on "cash on collection only". I think neither is right or wrong, however it is up to the seller to decide those terms. In this case, the seller's terms seem to have caught you unawares. Q: If the seller had expressed the payment terms more clearly (perhaps by stating it in the item description) - do you think you'd have still bid for the item after having more time to consider it? Phil 🙂 Well, regarding that question, that goes back to the thread title... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 20:54, paul_c2 said: As I understood it, this ISN'T the case - "winning" an eBay auction is NOT a contract to buy. Ie if you go to collect the item, you are not obliged to pay/take the item and you can't be sued for breach of contract or whatever if you decide on seeing it you don't want it, or pull out completely etc. Of course, eBay would like you to complete the transaction, and in 99% of cases where there is no further issue such as misdescribed, then it would plainly make sense to go through with it - after all you wanted it right? But that when it comes down to it, legally, there isn't the obligation to do it. Happy to be corrected (but please don't simply quote the eBay rules - of course they want you to....and their rules say so!) Correct. 'winning' an eBay auction is not a contract to buy. eBay likes to imply it is, but it ain't. If you are entitled to change your mind about buying a new item from a retailer, you are certainly entitled to do so over something used you have bought privately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 22:18, prowla said: 🙂 Well, regarding that question, that goes back to the thread title... Well, back to the opening post - it seems like what happens when two Alpha males meet. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Ricky 4000 said: Well, back to the opening post - it seems like what happens when two Alpha males meet. 😁 Well, certainly when one says give me your money before I tell you where I live and whether I'll be in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Anyway, if he'd gone ahead it would've been done yesterday - I'd have the bass and he'd have the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivem Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 27/12/2018 at 20:00, fleabag said: Then again, there's a sneaky way round Ebay's banning of phone numbers and addresses in ebay messaging. I've used it myself. And until they catch on, i still use it Would you mind sharing how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I think eBay are doing or have done something to facilitate viewings on collection items and will let you share contact details now, just don't remove the listing soon after or they'll try and charge you the fees anyway. That's what they tried with me, cheeky sods. EDIT: Although when I used to sneak round the message system I used words for numbers - won, too, free, fore, fife etc. Edited December 31, 2018 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I recently had my eBay account restricted for daring to ask if I could look at some wheels with tyres before bidding on them. Their suggestion was that I should have bid on them and then rejected them if I was unhappy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 hours ago, clivem said: Would you mind sharing how? If you want to send your phone number or address, write it on a piece of paper, photograph it, save as a .jpg, then send via messaging as an attachment. If you want to be sent this info, ask the seller to do the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 hours ago, lemmywinks said: EDIT: Although when I used to sneak round the message system I used words for numbers - won, too, free, fore, fife etc. That also works, but rather than have to type all that out for any auction, just do it once, as in my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobF Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I have included my mobile number in eBay listings on a number of occasions, most recently for the sale of a Gibson SG. potential customers can then text or call regarding further info, and it might have resulted in a sale without fees a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Jolie-blues Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I've done the include my mob number thing sometimes, hoping to trade outside flea-bay, either buying or selling, amazing how many folk don't grasp it, and then when you push it through messages, you get the restriction thing as mentioned earlier. Usually private sales, not shops/dealers who if you Google them for a phone number will drop the price when you talk as its not through flea-bay anymore with fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivem Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 9 hours ago, fleabag said: If you want to send your phone number or address, write it on a piece of paper, photograph it, save as a .jpg, then send via messaging as an attachment. If you want to be sent this info, ask the seller to do the above Cool. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 Well, I'm off to pick up an alternative one tomorrow evening on the way home from work, but it's cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 And here it is, the lighter bodied one on the right. The strings are dull as ditchwater though, so I'll be needing a new set ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Purty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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