Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) Hi folks... I'm no expert in cabs, but I started to play again on my old full valve Klemt Echolette BS40 '69.... I've got an BT400 with it, 2x 15" but I must admit that if the head gives a beautiful warm sound, the cab is just a piece of wood with speakers in it... I'm looking for a 15" cab with tweeter with some specs: - has to be not too expensive, or used... don't want to spend 1000£ in a cab. - I prefer sober designs... (textile grids, black is good) - with tweeter or high frequency speaker - Ideally a 5.3ohms but I'm no fool, a 4ohms will be cool - weight is not an issue, will stay in studio - MUST BE a responsive 15", not floppy one... I will accept any good advices about cabs because I don't really follow what's new and what's good... I'm too much into my wood ! Thanks! Edited December 26, 2018 by Marcoelwray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) This one here caught my eye: Quite tempted myself but I’m fixed on going BF Two10. Edited December 26, 2018 by Pea Turgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Unfortunatley it's 8 ohms... and ugly never heard of TKS before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Hi Marco, 5.3 ohms, that's a bit specific. You won't find anything out there at that impedance unless it's home made. You'd only get that with 3x16 ohms speakers in a cab. That won't matter, your amp is valve you say so it'll have a matching transformer. If it was originally built for a 3 way speaker it might be matched to such an odd impedance or it may be set to that so it will work equally well with a 4 or 8 ohm impedance. (it's 33% away from either, and the matching isn't that critical) Do you have other impedances available? that will be marked on the back of your amp. If not then for convenience I'd go for a single 8 ohm cab, with your amp you'll get the same volume out of either and if you ever want to add a second cab another 8ohm cab will work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Question yourself. Why does it have to be a 15" driver? Why do you need it to be either 5.3Ω or 4Ω? If it's in a studio, would a 1x10 or 1x12 be better suited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 @Phil Starr I just had an Epifani UL3-310, 5.3ohms, like you said 3 times 16ohms. Why does it have to be a 15" ??? Because I don't know much about cabs, that's why I ask for some advices, I didn't say I know nothing about electronic and I owned several cabs. I just came from Epifani UL3-310, just before that I owned two brand new Aguilar DB112. I do not want 8, 10 , 12 inches cabs. Because you can't get the punch of a 15" in a 10". (I mean the movement of air, not responsiveness). And no, like I said it's a Valve head, I won't go for 8ohms because I can select outputs only between 5.3 or 16ohms. With a decent volume, a 4ohms should do the work without blowing the amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 What about a Bergantino NV115 - they come up on the used market from time to time. 15" + 6" drivers sealed cab 400-watt handling 8-ohm impedance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, obbm said: What about a Bergantino NV115 - they come up on the used market from time to time. 15" + 6" drivers sealed cab 400-watt handling 8-ohm impedance Yep that's a nice suggestion, I never owned a Bergantino myself, I know it's good stuff. But could you qualify this cab of really punchy and responsive for a 15? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, Marcoelwray said: Yep that's a nice suggestion, I never owned a Bergantino myself, I know it's good stuff. But could you qualify this cab of really punchy and responsive for a 15? I've got one but haven't had a chance to give it a full workout yet. There are others here who have used them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 26/12/2018 at 11:22, Marcoelwray said: I can select outputs only between 5.3 or 16ohms. With a decent volume, a 4ohms should do the work without blowing the amp. If your output has a 5.3 ohm tap then it will be equally happy with either a 4 or an 8 ohm load. Like I said its 1/3 away from both so effectively 5.3ohms exactly in the middle between 4 and 8ohms. Either will work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 On 26/12/2018 at 10:29, Marcoelwray said: Unfortunatley it's 8 ohms... and ugly never heard of TKS before... Do some research man! Even on Basschat you will find lots of information. TKS are a Swedish company who make (as far as I am aware) only bass cabs. The build quality and sound are excellent and TKS have won many converts over here in the UK as well as mainland Europe. By the way, I have never heard anyone else refer to TKS's offerings as "ugly" 😲😀 Are you sure you're not judging the quality of my (terrible) photography? 😂 Joking aside - do yourself a favour and try a TKS cab. If you don't like them, fine - but don't discount them! On a separate note, a sensitive 8 ohm cab may well sound 'louder' with the same amp than a less sensitive 4 (or 5.33) ohm cab. The whole Watts/ohms/loudness thing is pretty complicated... Meanwhile - my ugly cab offers lightness, tone, volume, sensitivity and responsiveness. But feel free to judge with your eyes 😃 Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant didn't it? 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Speaker diameter has no bearing on how punchy the sound will be. I’m not saying don’t get a 1x15”, but don’t use speaker diameter as a restriction, it’s like saying the tuners on your bass have to be gold. Have you considered a good 2x12? They can certainly move some air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, xgsjx said: Speaker diameter has no bearing on how punchy the sound will be. I’m not saying don’t get a 1x15”, but don’t use speaker diameter as a restriction, it’s like saying the tuners on your bass have to be gold. Have you considered a good 2x12? They can certainly move some air. Honestly, I'm no expert like I said but I tried many many cabs. Not all cabs of the world of course. I never found the feeling of a 15 in another size. Maybe it's psychological, but I have the right to be crazy, don't I? @Conan easy my friend, I found it ugly in the meaning "not really classy" more raw design... Never said it was not well finished. It's a matter of personal tastes. And segundo, I'm here to have the expertise of people more advised.... And not looking for hours on the internet subjective opinions. So thank you for the infos, much appreciated, I will think about your cab (I can't recall the price, though...). I believe you when you say it's dope quality. Is it warm or dead neutral? (As Glockenklang can be for instance) I won't go for another size. 1x15. Don't take offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Nobody is taking offence man - just friendly banter 🙂 It's your money and your choice! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 By the way, I know what you mean about 15s. I know the science says to ignore the driver diameter, but my ears and experience prefer the sound of cabs with 15s... 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Conan said: By the way, I know what you mean about 15s. I know the science says to ignore the driver diameter, but my ears and experience prefer the sound of cabs with 15s... 🤔 THANKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Marcoelwray said: I won't go for another size. 1x15. Don't take offense. No offense taken. At the end of the day, it's what you're happy with. We'll just chuck some alernatives in there too just in case there's something you've not thought of. I played through a 15" for years. Then I went for 2 15"s. Then I went 4x10, then 2x10 & now 4x10 again (I'm planning on getting something that's more manageable though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky8884 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Check out the Barefaced Bass site as it has some good technical info https://barefacedbass.com/technical-information.htm And their cabs are very good from my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marcoelwray Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, funky8884 said: Check out the Barefaced Bass site as it has some good technical info https://barefacedbass.com/technical-information.htm And their cabs are very good from my experience Thanks! Interesting indeed, I'll read that. They have no 15 if I'm correct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 They used to and Alex started out saying a 15 was the perfect size but science seems to move on. I am like you and don't like anything but a 15 but I accept there may be no real basis for that other than long seated prejudice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky8884 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Marcoelwray said: Thanks! Interesting indeed, I'll read that. They have no 15 if I'm correct... That’s correct , they don’t make a 15 anymore, try a decent modern 12 or 10 inch cab and see how it compares to your 15. You may be pleasantly surprised or pleasantly disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 18 hours ago, Marcoelwray said: Honestly, I'm no expert like I said but I tried many many cabs. Not all cabs of the world of course. I never found the feeling of a 15 in another size. Maybe it's psychological, but I have the right to be crazy, don't I? @Conan easy my friend, I found it ugly in the meaning "not really classy" more raw design... Never said it was not well finished. It's a matter of personal tastes. And segundo, I'm here to have the expertise of people more advised.... And not looking for hours on the internet subjective opinions. So thank you for the infos, much appreciated, I will think about your cab (I can't recall the price, though...). I believe you when you say it's dope quality. Is it warm or dead neutral? (As Glockenklang can be for instance) I won't go for another size. 1x15. Don't take offense. i think 15in cabs is a good all rounder works well in most venues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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