dlloyd Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, The59Sound said: So you agree with me, not bass playing. I don't know his playing to be honest. I haven't watched his videos, but clearly other people have and he's making a living from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 ...quite a decent living from all accounts: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sweet-sound-of-success-for-online-bass-tutor-7hjktpgtm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Just to be clear, it’s not about Scott, it’s about an LA pro, one of about 4 or 5 on that sewn-up LA session scene where the P bass thing is an actual thing. So much of this thread is about “naaaa, just do your own thing”. No, do the thing that gets the job done, because that what a professional of anything does. We’re not talking about some crappy engineer who you’ve payed £50 to record your bands demo, we’re talking about producers who really REALLY know what they’re doing, and more importantly what they want....and they’re paying the bass player. Do other Basses exist? Yes. Are there recordings with other Basses on? Yes. But the video is talking about ‘Pro session players’ (who probably will all tell you the same thing) and is getting information from an LA session beast.....who really knows the game and what is expected of everyone in his circles. Do session players matter? Not if you don’t care about doing that, but that is what the video is about, so why do you care? Lol So again, why is everyone getting their nose out of joint like they’ve been held at gun-point to buy a Precision? Si Edited January 9, 2019 by Sibob 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, dlloyd said: ...quite a decent living from all accounts: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sweet-sound-of-success-for-online-bass-tutor-7hjktpgtm Huge respect from me to anyone who can build a business from scratch generating £2M of revenues and supporting the livelihoods of 10 staff; and at the same time providing bass tuition to 15,000 paying subscribers. Even more impressive following a career limiting injury. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Completely unrelated to the P Bass thing, but Scott set up a Jaydee I bought, many years ago when he was at Overwater and we both had hair. Lovely bloke and the setup was bob-on for me straight off, something that doesn't happen often. That's it really. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I met him at one of the Bass bashes when he was sitting with Chris from Overwater and he was very approachable. I have no issues with the guy at all. He's helpful when asked and i've picked up a few helpful tips from his free VID clips and he knows his stuff inside out. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I had a further reflection on this, following my initial negative reaction, and I do see the point. The producer isn't interested in exploring the possibilities of a wondrous sonic landscape but just wants to get the backing down as quickly as possible so the Talent can come in and do the vocals and everyone can go home. Plugging the bass in and pressing a button marked "P" does that, so the producer wants a bass player who has a bass that he can press the button marked "P" for. If an actual band goes in, the same producer would presumably be happy to accommodate their non-P requirements (if they have them) and go exploring sonic landscapes and flights of fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, tauzero said: The producer isn't interested in exploring the possibilities of a wondrous sonic landscape but just wants to get the backing down as quickly as possible so the Talent can come in and do the vocals and everyone can go home. Plugging the bass in and pressing a button marked "P" does that, so the producer wants a bass player who has a bass that he can press the button marked "P" for. If an actual band goes in, the same producer would presumably be happy to accommodate their non-P requirements (if they have them) and go exploring sonic landscapes and flights of fancy. So basically, the P bass goes down as a guide track so the real bass can be synthed over on top...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: So basically, the P bass goes down as a guide track so the real bass can be synthed over on top...? No, Tauzero is quite rightly making the distinction between a producer tasked with building/writing a track for a singer/artist, where they’ll have creative control and a producer who is hired by a band/artist. In the latter example they might have some creative input, but will usually have to bow to the wishes of the band. That said, most bands will hire a producer they respect, and if that producer says a P bass is best in that instance, most players of worth will at least try it. Si 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sibob said: No, Tauzero is quite rightly making the distinction between a producer tasked with building/writing a track for a singer/artist, where they’ll have creative control and a producer who is hired by a band/artist. In the latter example they might have some creative input, but will usually have to bow to the wishes of the band. That said, most bands will hire a producer they respect, and if that producer says a P bass is best in that instance, most players of worth will at least try it. Si It was tongue in cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: So basically, the P bass goes down as a guide track so the real bass can be synthed over on top...? 5 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: It was tongue in cheek. It's probably not as far off the mark as a lot of us on here would like to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, BigRedX said: It's probably not as far off the mark as a lot of us on here would like to think. When was the last time we heard a drum that wasn't augmented with samples for example...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Why do Pros use a P Bass... ...to get to the other side! Seeeemple! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Sibob said: So much of this thread is about “naaaa, just do your own thing”. No, do the thing that gets the job done, because that what a professional of anything does. We’re not talking about some crappy engineer who you’ve payed £50 to record your bands demo, we’re talking about producers who really REALLY know what they’re doing, and more importantly what they want....and they’re paying the bass player. ^ This in spades. On Basschat we're very much blurring the lines between work and play / profession and hobby. And I imagine that in our day jobs, most of us do what is asked of us by our clients. We might make suggestions and rescue clients if they're truly heading for calamity, of course. But we otherwise do what we're paid to do, within reason. Session musicians are no exception. And how many of us here are professional session musicians? Exactly. Also just to add, there is far more objectionable content on YouTube than Scott's Bass Lessons. To me, he always comes across as a nice bloke and I feel we should be supporting such champions of our oft-ignored instrument, as they are in short supply. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I'm thinking two P basses - because one should be set up with flats. 👍 It's also a requirement by the studio that I work for (the imaginary one that I go to during the night). 😁 Edited January 9, 2019 by Ricky 4000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ricky 4000 said: I'm thinking two P basses - because one should be set up with flats. 👍 But what colour should they be, the red ones are always sound different to the sunbursts [2 and 3 tone] and do they match the performers clothes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ricky 4000 said: I'm thinking two P basses - because one should be set up with flats. 👍 It's also a requirement by the studio that I work for (the imaginary one that I go to during the night). According to Carole Kaye, it should be a P bass with flatwounds & played with a felt pick (axe ⛏). She played on over 10,000 records, so it must be right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, bumnote said: But what colour should they be, the red ones are always sound different to the sunbursts [2 and 3 tone] and do they match the performers clothes. Sky-blue pink with yellow polka-dots. The only way to fly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebassist Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 F@ck it, when I turn up at the studio I'll have my custom bass & if they don't like it they know what they can do... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Teebs said: According to Carole Kaye, it should be a P bass with flatwounds & played with a felt pick (axe ⛏). She played on over 10,000 records, so it must be right! Carole my bass teacher you mean? ... that was another dream. 😁 S'funny how Carol doesn't use the term "electric bass". When talking about session work, she says either "stand up bass" or "Fender bass". 😎 I was saying the same thing to Jerry Preston just the other day ... dammit, that was yet another dream! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ricky 4000 said: Carole my bass teacher you mean? ... that was another dream. 😁 S'funny how Carol doesn't use the term "electric bass". When talking about session work, she says either "stand up bass" or "Fender bass". 😎 Ahem http://www.carolkaye.com/lessons/index.php 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, BreadBin said: Ahem http://www.carolkaye.com/lessons/index.php Oh yes, and I absolutely mean to start the lessons. It's just that Teebs said I should get some jazz cigarettes and a zoot suit first. 👍 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ricky 4000 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: ... That was a great (pre-edit) post! 😖 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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