mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 17 hours ago, Dan Dare said: A P bass works. It may not be good for everything, but it does the job a lot of the time. So do other basses. Easily. It's just inertia... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 17 hours ago, drTStingray said: I've tried G and Ls and they're very nice basses - I probably haven't played them enough to form a proper view but I found the MFD pick ups very hot and the overall sound was quite Fenderish. I've heard other people sound great on them. I agree on active Fenders - I'm sure the latest are much better but back in the 80s I disliked the sound. My own personal gripe with Precisions (which were my holy grail basses as a late teen/early 20 yr old) was the playability - I remember my disappointment the first time I played one in a shop and literally the neck shape and size made it difficult to play. I hear you say, oh you should have tried one with an xyz pattern neck - wrong - you got what the shop had and even if you were super human (like some rock stars of the time) you got the one the distributor gave you. The days of ordering the one you wanted were way off!! And back then the P bass was designed for ex upright players. Ive played loads over years and find them much more playable these days (they must have altered the neck profile) - when I first played a Stingray in the late 70s the neck was perfect for my hands and playing and the sound was exactly what I wanted - so that's what hooked me. I still really like Precisions - and they are clearly an American icon. In terms of use in his videos, Scott Devine seems amazingly unaware of a whole range of iconic basses - Ibanez, Yamaha, Musicman, Warwick, Rickenbacker, Danelectro, Gibson, Alembic, Wal - there's a decent sized list! As an educator it seems to me as bad as someone teaching history and ignoring anything that doesn't match their own political or religious view. I think biased would be the description! If his focus is sixties Motown then fine but there is more to life!! well put 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, chris_b said: I was once handed a real 1962 P bass at the start of a session. "Here, use this" was how the discussion went!! In that instance I went from a short scale narrow neck to a wide fretboard Fender P bass with one run through, before the red light came on. It was a real roast to play anything in tempo on that bass, but I did it. Sadly, they made it sound like it came from Toys R Us! But, no matter, on the strength of that session I was asked back many times. In that world, the true measure of you as a bass player is how well do you play, how accurate you are (no bum notes allowed) and how quickly you can contribute to the session. I wish I could play to that level today! I saw Nathan East at a Bass Clinic at GAK and he said the hardest thing on the LA music scene, is to be asked back. True, it isn't a hobby players world, but if you aspire to playing like your favourite player it's good to also be aware of the environment many of them work in. Edited December 30, 2018 by chris_b 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawelG Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 By the way, Sean Hurley seems like a genuinely lovely dude. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what bass you play, you won’t get much work if you’re a tw*t 🙂 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, mcnach said: the cortina of the bass world 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Hobbayne said: I have a P bass, Piles and an iPhone. What do I win??😋 Unfortunately, you win a Rick... 😛 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, mcnach said: Unfortunately, you win a Rick... 😛 or a phantom bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, rollie 55 said: If you are going to change what I actually typed, at least add some note to indicate what you really mean... otherwise it's utterly pointless and confusing edit: and the smiley Edited December 30, 2018 by mcnach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, mcnach said: Unfortunately, you win a Rick... 😛 I wouldn't mind a Rick, if it was one of the newer five strings without the daft bridge and pickup cover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said: I wouldn't mind a Rick, if it was one of the newer five strings without the daft bridge and pickup cover! I haven't tried one, but the strings look really close together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, mcnach said: If you are going to change what I actually typed, at least add some note to indicate what you really mean... otherwise it's utterly pointless and confusing edit: and the smiley sorry i think iv done somthing wrong on the reply 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, mcnach said: I haven't tried one, but the strings look really close together I'm kind of fond of that; I started on an Ibanez ric copy, then an Aria TSB, then a homebuilt 4-string with the bridge off the ric copy (later a Hipshot), then my 5-string with the same spacing as the MM fivers, with only a couple of briefer spells with Jazz basses. So I've spent most of my playing time since my teens on string spacing that's narrower than Fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 58 minutes ago, Hobbayne said: I have a P bass, Piles and an iPhone. What do I win??😋 A holiday in a rubber room ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said: I'm kind of fond of that; I started on an Ibanez ric copy, then an Aria TSB, then a homebuilt 4-string with the bridge off the ric copy (later a Hipshot), then my 5-string with the same spacing as the MM fivers, with only a couple of briefer spells with Jazz basses. So I've spent most of my playing time since my teens on string spacing that's narrower than Fender. I see, then it must look more attractive than to me. I find the SR5 too narrow. The nicest 5-string I found was a Lakland 55-02, not just the profile, but the wide neck (19mm string spacing at the bridge), followed by a Squier Jazz V DeLuxe, a bit chunkier and also 19mm. I guess I could play any 5 string just as badly with a tiny bit of practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, rollie 55 said: sorry i think iv done somthing wrong on the reply No worries... I was really confused I thought it had some hidden meaning I could not figure out... But then I haven't had lunch yet and I'm starving so my brain is not at its brightest... It's all good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, mcnach said: No worries... I was really confused I thought it had some hidden meaning I could not figure out... But then I haven't had lunch yet and I'm starving so my brain is not at its brightest... It's all good thats ok i kinda new at this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvo66 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 You've gotta love a p bass the sound oh lordy bliss,but it's swings and roundabouts really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, mcnach said: However, to insist on a Precision, unless you really are looking for THAT sound, is either narrow-minded or lazy. Probably both. I think. Indeed, or possibly lacking in imagination. Vive la difference I reckon. For the record, I have owned a goodly number of P basses, both modern and vintage, absolutely lovely instruments. These days I prefer the extra tonal options a J type gives me, especially live. If a studio session demands that P bass tone, the neck p/up soloed on my passive JJ is as near as makes no odds (see my earlier post about the SE Bash’s blind test). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, ezbass said: Indeed, or possibly lacking in imagination. Vive la difference I reckon. For the record, I have owned a goodly number of P basses, both modern and vintage, absolutely lovely instruments. These days I prefer the extra tonal options a J type gives me, especially live. If a studio session demands that P bass tone, the neck p/up soloed on my passive JJ is as near as makes no odds (see my earlier post about the SE Bash’s blind test). I've been thinking the same - with the right strings and amp, and favouring the neck pickup, my 5-string with J pickups gets pretty close to what I'd want from a P bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, PawelG said: I don’t get why so many people on here hate Scott’s videos. If you watched one and it whizzed you off, don’t watch another one. It is that simple. On the other hand, I bet a lot of people hating Scott would swap their job for his in a blink of an eye. And then, it doesn’t matter that they have to make a 12 minute video to put up on YT, hell, they’d probably make two! I'm pretty sure they used to be a lot more informative and beneficial - educational even! Now you watch them and they drag on, after a few minutes you forget what the video was supposed to be about while Scott eats his cornflakes and tells you what his favourite Ikea shelving unit is. I unsubscribed a while ago without any fuss, no hate for the guy or anything. Just seems like a decent resource for players has soured a little. Edited December 30, 2018 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Drax said: Guess the hit factory isn't as prevalent now, but session work today is broadly the same, from friends I have that do it. Don't underestimate those pearls of inspiration that might turn someone onto bass from hearing a Nana Mouskouri(!) record - you don't have to look too far into Nathan East, Guy Pratt, Pino discography to find some very vanilla artists they brought their magic to. I'm sorry if I've upset anyone - I wasn't intending to slag off any pro musicians in this and in my youth I was interested broadly in any recorded or performed bass parts - including those on Nana Mouskouri or even the Singing Nun records - still do I guess. However it was the Andy Fraser/Jack Bruce et al that inspired me to actually start playing in the first place - rock music - that was the point I was making. Interesting to hear session still exist - clearly nothing like the 60s or 70s (93 commercial studios in London down to less than 10 I believe - if that). Now if you focus on dance and pop music you'll find some stonking bass parts around even now - I'm sure they're not all played on Precisions - even bass guitars though!! Edited December 30, 2018 by drTStingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 7 hours ago, probonopublico said: I'll keep my head down. I've got a P and a Rick. I've not got piles though. Or an IPhone. ive got a p and jazz + iphone not piles though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PawelG Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, lemmywinks said: I'm pretty sure they used to be a lot more informative and beneficial - educational even! Now you watch them and they drag on, after a few minutes you forget what the video was supposed to be about while Scott eats his cornflakes and tells you what his favourite Ikea shelving unit is. I unsubscribed a while ago without any fuss, no hate for the guy or anything. Just seems like a decent resource for players has soured a little. Well, I get your point. But that’s YouTube for you. His lessons in the academy are different for sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, ezbass said: Indeed, or possibly lacking in imagination. Vive la difference I reckon. For the record, I have owned a goodly number of P basses, both modern and vintage, absolutely lovely instruments. These days I prefer the extra tonal options a J type gives me, especially live. If a studio session demands that P bass tone, the neck p/up soloed on my passive JJ is as near as makes no odds (see my earlier post about the SE Bash’s blind test). I've had a few Jazz's and respectfully disagree, if that were the case why would anybody bother with a Precision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probonopublico Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, rollie 55 said: ive got a p and jazz + iphone not piles though I've got a jazz as well but they don't seem to be as controversial. Although I have got a music stand and a 2015 Les Paul Junior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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