Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: You could follow his advice and read the manual and open the editor (you don’t need to own a C4 to do that). It’s what the rest of us are having to do to figure this stuff out. Roger didn’t design the pedal so still has to defer to Bob for answers. Good to know that you can do that without owning a C4. The SY-1 was a little less effort to on this one point. From the website: "But with the send/return loop and dedicated mix controls, it’s also possible to blend one or more pedals in parallel" Job done. Now wouldn't it be great if SA could just tell you with a simple "yes" or "no" whether you can loop in parallel without having to download PC software on a pedal you don't even own (which I won't be doing btw)! But hey, I'm just a simple bass player and someone who currently owns 3 bits of SA gear, so no point pandering to the likes of me, eh...😂 Edited September 24, 2019 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Good to know that you can do that without owning a C4. The SY-1 was a little less effort to on this one point. From the website: "But with the send/return loop and dedicated mix controls, it’s also possible to blend one or more pedals in parallel" Job done. Now wouldn't it be great if SA could just tell you with a simple "yes" or "no" whether you can loop in parallel without having to download PC software on a pedal you don't even own (which I won't be doing btw)! But hey, I'm just a simple bass player and someone who currently owns 3 bits of SA gear, so no point pandering to the likes of me, eh...😂 That’s because the SY-1 dual inputs serve only one function whereas the C4 has loads of choices. I think I’ve figured out how to do it but won’t be able to say for definite until I’m home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: That’s because the SY-1 dual inputs serve only one function whereas the C4 has loads of choices. I think I’ve figured out how to do it but won’t be able to say for definite until I’m home. Good man! PS there are a few C4 owners on TB who seem to have tried to get their heads around this issue and given up... might be worth you checking the most recent posts on the TB C4 thread to see if what you're proposing is a more usable solution than theirs. Edited September 24, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Al Krow said: Good man! PS there are a few C4 owners on TB who seem to have tried to get their heads around this issue and given up... might be worth you checking the most recent posts on the TB C4 thread to see if what you're proposing is a more usable solution than theirs. I’ve managed it! Edited September 24, 2019 by Quatschmacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: I’ve managed it! Well if anyone was going to figure this out...😀 Make sure to share it on the TB thread as well as here, as there will be a lot of folk interested in your solution, particularly if it is relatively easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Well if anyone was going to figure this out...😀 Make sure to share it on the TB thread as well as here, as there will be a lot of folk interested in your solution, particularly if it is relatively easy to do. Already done. It did take a bit of thinking about while I was at work. The patch is here: https://neuro.sourceaudio.net/preset/PBpBeiOGJB Edited September 24, 2019 by Quatschmacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just checked on TB...and yours still suffers from not being able to access the pedals in the loop when the C4 is bypassed. Appreciate the thinking that went into it, though - definitely not something your average (or even way above average!) Jo bassist could have come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Just checked on TB...and yours still suffers from not being able to access the pedals in the loop when the C4 is bypassed. Appreciate the thinking that went into it, though - definitely not something your average (or even way above average!) Jo bassist could have come up with. This is a non issue. Just set a clean patch with loop only. As said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, GisserD said: This is a non issue. Just set a clean patch with loop only. As said before. Fair i.e. you need two separate patches one to run Qs parallel loop and a second with clean patch and loop only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Fair i.e. you need two separate patches one to run Qs parallel loop and a second with clean patch and loop only. yes. i would think most C4 users will have midi capability, and therefore a patch for a loop wont come at a great cost. those that dont.... well they would have to use one of their 6 pressets Edited September 24, 2019 by GisserD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Peter's parallel patch for the C4 (or PPP4 for short). Set the routing option to “dual input 1&2” Master output balance at noon. Hard pan Voice 1 to processor 1. Set destination to filter only. Hard pan Voice 2 to processor 2. Set destination to “direct output”. Hard pan Voice 3 to processor 1. Set destination to “direct output” Set Mix 1 destination to “output 1 only”. Set Mix 2 destination to “output 2 only”. Set up a synth sound on voice 1, e.g. “Saw 1” and set up envelope and filter to your liking. Plug your instrument into input 1. Plug output 1 into your amp. Plug output 2 into your external effect in. Plug your external effect out into C4 input 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Peter's parallel patch for the C4 (or PPP4 for short). Set the routing option to “dual input 1&2” Master output balance at noon. Hard pan Voice 1 to processor 1. Set destination to filter only. Hard pan Voice 2 to processor 2. Set destination to “direct output”. Hard pan Voice 3 to processor 1. Set destination to “direct output” Set Mix 1 destination to “output 1 only”. Set Mix 2 destination to “output 2 only”. Set up a synth sound on voice 1, e.g. “Saw 1” and set up envelope and filter to your liking. Plug your instrument into input 1. Plug output 1 into your amp. Plug output 2 into your external effect in. Plug your external effect out into C4 input 2. i assume thats a quote from Peter.... and exactly the kind of content i expect only to be available for patreons! obviousy its only a matter of time before the content is sharedsomwhere... but patreons will have an invested interest in it not doing so. anyway its about creating a reason to be a patreon, the content itself is just a means to an end. rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GisserD said: i assume that's a quote from Peter.... Yeah the clue's in the header: 'Peter's parallel patch...' 😉 It's already publicly available on TB to a much wider C4 audience than on here. There's two parts to getting followers and one is building a reputation. Sometimes you have to give away freebie's to get folks' attention / buy in. There's this chap called Scott who seems to get the balance right and generates £2M+ turnover. Not too shabby for a bass player with a dodgy hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GisserD said: i assume thats a quote from Peter.... and exactly the kind of content i expect only to be available for patreons! obviousy its only a matter of time before the content is sharedsomwhere... but patreons will have an invested interest in it not doing so. anyway its about creating a reason to be a patreon, the content itself is just a means to an end. rant over. I’m fairness I did post it to TB and uploaded the patch to the cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Finally decided to face the facts that I’ll never get the use out of the pedal that it deserves so it’s in the classifieds. Maybe it is worth trying the Boss out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: I’m fairness I did post it to TB and uploaded the patch to the cloud. I think I've been misunderstood. I'm suggesting that you withhold some of these nuggets for patrons. To inspire people to become a patreon. Build the brand!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, GisserD said: I think I've been misunderstood. Genius always is. Peter can confirm. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Can’t remember if I’ve already posted this link in this thread. Here are my C4 patches. Newer ones appear at the bottom of the list. Just added some tasty FM basses last night: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 My first stab at the sequencers: 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) A new one: https://neuro.sourceaudio.net/preset/EM9u3aTuWk Edited October 16, 2019 by Quatschmacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Can I just comment on the fact that the C4 is also an awesome Envelope filter pedal? In combination with my Cog T47 this thing just oozes da funk. And yes, I still use an analogue Octaver, even though the OC2 can be closely approximated on both FI and C4. And yes, you need to use a midi switcher for the C4. It has really opened up possibilities. Edited November 11, 2019 by HazBeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Has anyone got any patches that give that Jamiroquai synth sound like deeper underground ? Edited November 11, 2019 by PJ-Bassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, PJ-Bassist said: Has anyone got any patches that give that Jamiroquai synth sound like deeper underground ? I manage that close enough with a Digitech BSW! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, fretmeister said: I manage that close enough with a Digitech BSW! Ha! Indeed, it was one of the first sounds I got with the BSW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, fretmeister said: I manage that close enough with a Digitech BSW! That's cool, but I don't have a BSW and am unlikely to get one. The C4 looked more versatile and I liked the idea of potentially using the expression pedal to do some pitch bends (if possible) like on the original deeper underground recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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