Savethedaves Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Well, managed to get my hands on one of these beauts as B stock. Wow. What. A. Pedal. That's all I came here to say. Edit: I can't remember the last time I bought a pedal and daydreamed about playing it the entire day after I'd played it. I'm GAS-ing about a pedal I own. I got it with the delicious synthy swells in mind, but have been dreaming about the moog-y, 80's quick classic synth bass vibes. Edited November 15, 2019 by Savethedaves 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Mine finally arrived after a month of waiting - very happy with this little monster - the tracking is insanely good - actually better and more expressive than any MIDI solution I’ve tried so far - and while I LOVE the Meris Enzo - the tracking on the C4 is really stunning - with the added bonus of stupendous sounds too 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, urb said: Mine finally arrived after a month of waiting - very happy with this little monster - the tracking is insanely good - actually better and more expressive than any MIDI solution I’ve tried so far - and while I LOVE the Meris Enzo - the tracking on the C4 is really stunning - with the added bonus of stupendous sounds too 😎 Get signed up to the Neuro preset sharing platform and get some sweet sounds downloaded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: Get signed up to the Neuro preset sharing platform and get some sweet sounds downloaded. Done 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 I had a chance to flick through the most popular c4 presets at gig volume today. Mind. Blown. Sounds insane. Incredibly inspiring to play with some of the sounds! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bee Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) Hi guys 🙂 what are the octave down capabilities like compared to solo'ed OC2 etc and the envelope filter capabilities compared to the Manta? I'm very near to getting one from Santa! (as in not quite decided yet) Many thanks, JB Edited November 28, 2019 by Jonathan Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Jonathan Bee said: Hi guys 🙂 what are the octave down capabilities like compared to solo'ed OC2 etc and the envelope filter capabilities compared to the Manta? I'm very near to getting one from Santa! (as in not quite decided yet) Many thanks, JB It does all the Manta does and way more. It’s actually better for synth than the Manta as you don’t have to fudge the envelope down shape like you do on the Manta (it always comes back upwards so you need to cut off notes before that happens). It’s not as immediate as regards knob control for setting filter types. You could map envelope speed to one of the control knobs and cutoff to the other, but that still doesn’t sort out depth. Most likely you’ll program with the PC or phone though so not so drastic. Not as good as having hardware buttons though (at least the way I like it). The octaver is pretty good but not quite as full-sounding as an analogue one. Tracking is spot on though. By the way, I sold my Manta when I got this and I loved my Manta. Edited November 28, 2019 by Quatschmacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bee Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 @Quatschmacher Thanks for that very thorough response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bee Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I've just ordered one through Rich Tone music... should be here Saturday! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Jonathan Bee said: I've just ordered one through Rich Tone music... should be here Saturday! 🙂 Thanks for supporting my local. Wonder if it might have been worth waiting a day for Black Friday deals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bee Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Quatschmacher said: Thanks for supporting my local. Wonder if it might have been worth waiting a day for Black Friday deals. I'll give myself a slight Chinese burn if there are black Friday deals on the C4! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 19 hours ago, Jonathan Bee said: I'll give myself a slight Chinese burn if there are black Friday deals on the C4! 🙂 Somehow I doubt you’ll find one in the ‘sale’ bedlam out there - unless you happen to have a discount code 😀 - enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bee Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 46 minutes ago, urb said: Somehow I doubt you’ll find one in the ‘sale’ bedlam out there - unless you happen to have a discount code 😀 - enjoy! Thanks man! 🙂 no, didn't see any deals.. looking forward to havinog it in my mitts tomorrow and having a day of bass business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Fellow C4 owners - I'm having an issue with using an expression pedal - I have a Source Audio one in case you're wondering - bascially once I assign a control to the pedal the dial jumps from min to max and doesn't move smoothly... I've tried callibrating it in the settings but had no joy so far... any tips on how to do this properly would be appreciated - thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 are you using a SA trrs cable? or Standard TRS into hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, urb said: Fellow C4 owners - I'm having an issue with using an expression pedal - I have a Source Audio one in case you're wondering - bascially once I assign a control to the pedal the dial jumps from min to max and doesn't move smoothly... I've tried callibrating it in the settings but had no joy so far... any tips on how to do this properly would be appreciated - thanks Have you got source set to “external expression”? Have you set the mini minimum and maximum percentages in the editor? Is there a trimpot on the expression pedal and is it set fully open to give maximum range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: Have you got source set to “external expression”? Have you set the mini minimum and maximum percentages in the editor? Is there a trimpot on the expression pedal and is it set fully open to give maximum range? There is a trim pot - I’ll have a bit more of a fiddle with that and see if it changes how it behaves - the exp pedal works fine on my filter pedal so I know that it’s working - and yes it’s definitely set to external expression. I’ve also tried changing the min-max values in the editor - I’ll do some further investigation soon.... what puzzled me most was the calibration didn’t seem to work - I use an exp pedal with my Softstep 2 controller and calibrating that is fine... any other thoughts are most welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, urb said: There is a trim pot - I’ll have a bit more of a fiddle with that and see if it changes how it behaves - the exp pedal works fine on my filter pedal so I know that it’s working - and yes it’s definitely set to external expression. I’ve also tried changing the min-max values in the editor - I’ll do some further investigation soon.... what puzzled me most was the calibration didn’t seem to work - I use an exp pedal with my Softstep 2 controller and calibrating that is fine... any other thoughts are most welcome You didn’t answer @GisserD‘s question - are you plugging straight into the C4 using a Source Audio 3.5mm TRRS cable or are you using a standard 6.3mm TRS cable into a Hub first? If you’ve simply stuck a stereo 6.3mm-to-3.5mm adaptor on the end of your cable then it won’t work as the rings and sleeves won’t match the contacts. You might be able to fudge it by pulling the cable out slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Quatschmacher said: You didn’t answer @GisserD‘s question - are you plugging straight into the C4 using a Source Audio 3.5mm TRRS cable or are you using a standard 6.3mm TRS cable into a Hub first? If you’ve simply stuck a stereo 6.3mm-to-3.5mm adaptor on the end of your cable then it won’t work as the rings and sleeves won’t match the contacts. You might be able to fudge it by pulling the cable out slightly. Oh, that's probably why - I have an adapter - where can I get a Source Audio 3.5mm TRRS cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GisserD Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) i assume you have the SA dual expression? if so just use any standard TRRS cable? Edited December 6, 2019 by GisserD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GisserD said: i assume you have the SA dual expression? if so just use any standard TRRS cable? It came with its own TRRS cable - I have an adapter for from 6.3 to 3.5mm cable which I use for my Keith McMillen Softstep 2 - that has always worked fine when I've used it for operating a 'virtual' Whammy pedal in Guitar Rig 5 - which is why I'm wondering why the C4 is having an issue with it... as I said previously I probably just need to get stuck in and see if it's a setting in the editor that can sort this Edited December 6, 2019 by urb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, urb said: It came with its own TRRS cable - I have an adapter for from 6.3 to 3.5mm cable which I use for my Keith McMillen Softstep 2 - that has always worked fine when I've used it for operating a 'virtual' Whammy pedal in Guitar Rig 5 - which is why I'm wondering why the C4 is having an issue with it... as I said previously I probably just need to get stuck in and see if it's a setting in the editor that can sort this Is the adapter TRRS or TRS? You can get the Source Audio 3.5mm TRRS cables from them. Just email them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said: Is the adapter TRRS or TRS? You can get the Source Audio 3.5mm TRRS cables from them. Just email them. Great thanks - will do - I honestly don't know if the cable is TRRS or TRS - it came with the SA Dual Expression pedal so I would assume so - will check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, urb said: Great thanks - will do - I honestly don't know if the cable is TRRS or TRS - it came with the SA Dual Expression pedal so I would assume so - will check Easy to check. TRRS has three black rings on the shaft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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