Andyjr1515 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 It will probably be next week before I actually get to cutting wood on this. Once you start cutting wood then decisions have been made and opportunities for changing - or correcting - those decisions are limited. The real challenge is that the neck fillet carve has to be the final one. No opportunity for adjustment of neck angle - because of the fill-in carve - so it has to be right first time. Also - there are other things to check with custom builds. Such as 'will it fit in a standard case?' So I do a lot of musings and ponderings and checkings...there are a lot of -ings in an average custom build! This is one of the reasons I keep an old P body. It's a good double check and, for this one, it gives me a decent guide how much wider we can go with the Sapele back if we want to: So I have at least 15mm each side of the widest part of the rear bout. What I will do next is draw the back template in Inkscape and have a go at simulating what the revised concept could look like. But that will have to wait - I'm just off to meet @scrumpymike who is going to pass across to me something VERY exciting (and this time for ME! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well yeeehar. Wider , always is my philosophy So go wide young skywalker. Besides, i have a rather volumous bag...and it's not mrs bag, in case you were asking , thats biggger, and taller, than any of my bass cases. It's a Roksan padded affair and adequate for anything longer and wider than normal 34" scale bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 PS we need to know what's coming your way, otherwise i'm bubbling you to the feds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: This is one of the reasons I keep an old P body. It's a good double check and, for this one, it gives me a decent guide how much wider we can go with the Sapele back if we want to: Is that not a J outline at the back of this image? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 8 hours ago, fleabag said: i have a rather volumous bag... Even Peter Cook and Dudley Moore would struggle to get that into a lyric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: Is that not a J outline at the back of this image? Entirely possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 OK - something like this? There would be a purpleheart demarcation between the two. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm already digging it. Can ya dig it ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, fleabag said: Can ya dig it ? ...just call me Doug. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 There was a Mock Turtles band member called Doug ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, fleabag said: There was a Mock Turtles band member called Doug ? Aw crap. Now I have to share that earworm with everyone else: Edited January 23, 2019 by SpondonBassed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 22/01/2019 at 12:51, fleabag said: PS we need to know what's coming your way, otherwise i'm bubbling you to the feds OK - I won't hijack my own thread, but it's this game-changing Gillett Contour 6 string Electric in Rocklite Sundari It's been doing the shows over the past couple of months - it's the first full 'top back and sides' use of Rocklite Sundari worldwide - and now it's in my sticky mitts The cutaways are natural walnut. The top back and sides are artificial - the Rocklite Sundari (which aims to be an alternative to Rosewood, now highly regulated and restricted in use and sale). Just look at that grain! I'll do a proper run through when I get a moment on the 'Other Instruments' bit and on Guitarchat but suffice to say I am VERY excited. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylon Pilson Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Andyjr1515 said: The top back and sides are artificial - the Rocklite Sundari (which aims to be an alternative to Rosewood, now highly regulated and restricted in use and sale). This is a very interesting development indeed. How does the cost of the rocklite compare to "the real thing"? S.P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Stylon Pilson said: This is a very interesting development indeed. How does the cost of the rocklite compare to "the real thing"? S.P. Well this is the exciting thing. @scrumpymike works with Gillett Guitars and, through him, I've been able to see some of the innards of these remarkable basses and guitars. I won't go through the finer features of the guitar design itself as it is truly unique and I'm sure Gillett want to keep ahead of the plagiarists as long as they can - it and the basses have a number of patented features which helps. But, I've had the chance to talk at length with their technical manager and - bearing in mind these are both CNC'd and hand-tooled and finished components...high precision stuff - he showed me the components. They were treated exactly the same as the mahogany components for the main production models. It was finish-fitted, sanded, sealed and final finished in exactly the same way. I saw some pieces close to and, if I hadn't been told, I wouldn't have known it wasn't solid wood... By the way...there may well be a full feature in one of the major mags on this material and this specific guitar in the coming months... Edited January 24, 2019 by Andyjr1515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 That is just sublime workmanship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fleabag said: That is just sublime workmanship It is indeed. Very unusual design too... Well done, Gillett Guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillett Guitars Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks guys! The really exciting bit is that so far most players prefer the sound of the Rocklite instrument. Re cost, it's currently slightly more expensive than natural tone-wood. All credit to Andy for having the courage to specify his guitar in this hi-tech material! Fyi, we're just finishing a second Rocklite 6-string guitar for another member of this forum. Could this be the future for our (currently Indian Rosewood) Contour S bass? I'll give Andy his topic back now 😉 - any more questions to me via pm/phone please or follow our sponsored Gillett Guitars topic. scrumpymike aka Sales & Marketing Manager GILLETT GUITARS Tel. +44 (0)1823 272376/(0)7770 946135 … and now it’s a ‘perfect 10’ for Quality In BGM’s September 2018 review!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCH Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Andy, thank you for being a pioneer ...I tried it @ Gillett, ordered immediately! Have visited the CNC partner...wow...will be finished in a couple of weeks...cant wait ...I also have the 4 string Slimline Contour Bass, which I and my band love...check them out We bass players should take Rocklite seriously as a recyclable alternative...expect more innovation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: OK - I won't hijack my own thread, but it's this game-changing Gillett Contour 6 string Electric in Rocklite Sundari It's been doing the shows over the past couple of months - it's the first full 'top back and sides' use of Rocklite Sundari worldwide - and now it's in my sticky mitts The cutaways are natural walnut. The top back and sides are artificial - the Rocklite Sundari (which aims to be an alternative to Rosewood, now highly regulated and restricted in use and sale). Just look at that grain! I'll do a proper run through when I get a moment on the 'Other Instruments' bit and on Guitarchat but suffice to say I am VERY excited. Funnily enough I was thinking of this guitar the other day when I got de ja vu reading about Fender's new Acoustasonic. Although this is clearly on a different level. Edited January 25, 2019 by Cato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 OK - back to the subject Well, I'm pretty much ready to start cutting wood. I've found a decent piece of sapele for the back and the purpleheart is on order. That should be with me Monday/Tuesday and then I reckon I'm ready to go The pickup cover and control cover are just representative, but this is broadly how it'll look (without the chalk marks ) ((...and the peak won't be as sharp as that!)) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: OK - back to the subject Well, I'm pretty much ready to start cutting wood. I've found a decent piece of sapele for the back and the purpleheart is on order. That should be with me Monday/Tuesday and then I reckon I'm ready to go The pickup cover and control cover are just representative, but this is broadly how it'll look (without the chalk marks ) ((...and the peak won't be as sharp as that!)) An interesting feature in this design is the bold move towards outboard stringing of the E and G strings. Here we see it achieved by using an oversized bridge from the set of Land of the Giants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, SpondonBassed said: An interesting feature in this design is the bold move towards outboard stringing of the E and G strings. Here we see it achieved by using an oversized bridge from the set of Land of the Giants. That'll teach me to rush. Mind you, it has a subtle elegance don't you think? And a surefire cure for neckdive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: That'll teach me to rush. Mind you, it has a subtle elegance don't you think? And a surefire cure for neckdive You'll be doing one of those twisty necks liked @Saved next! "Subtle elegance". Okay, if you say so. In the same way that Fender headstocks and road traffic accidents are subtle I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Looking like a bass , Andy I dont mind if only the A and D strings run along the fretboard. Unique , i'd call it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Roughly where will the strap button go on this design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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