eude Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Well that's crazy! I literally bing'd 'single cut bass rear view' to find a picture to show people what I was talking about! The really wierd thing was that three of the other photos were of Kert's camphor single cut - one of my own builds Things come full circle a lot quicker thanks to the internet. There's still not a lot of bolt-on single cut basses out there, compared the the more usual set-neck or neck-through anyway, and I believe that Shuker was the first Jon had made, and certainly one of the earliest ones here in the UK, so it's probably engrained into the search engines now. Eude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bigwan said: Are you allowed to cheat and modify the neck? My initial thought would be to glue more meat around the bass side of the butt end of the neck to get you closer to the bolt on arrangement of your first picture. Don't know what that would do to your truss rod operation though.... At the moment I'm not planning modding the neck. If I was, then yes, I think something on those lines My thought at the moment is to shape the body a little bit like @eude 's erstwhile Shuker and carve a cradle for the neck to slot into. Do I have proven skills to be able to do that? No - not yet Could this end badly? Please refer to the title 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Andyjr1515 said: At the moment I'm not planning modding the neck. If I was, then yes, I think something on those lines My thought at the moment is to shape the body a little bit like @eude 's erstwhile Shuker and carve a cradle for the neck to slot into. Do I have proven skills to be able to do that? No - not yet Could this end badly? Please refer to the title If it comes to modding the neck, I guess anything you do could rather be conveniently hidden in the single cut neck neck joint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, eude said: If it comes to modding the neck, I guess anything you do could rather be conveniently hidden in the single cut neck neck joint Ah...but if it all fails, I have to buy @fleabag a new neck.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: At the moment I'm not planning modding the neck. If I was, then yes, I think something on those lines My thought at the moment is to shape the body a little bit like @eude 's erstwhile Shuker and carve a cradle for the neck to slot into. Do I have proven skills to be able to do that? No - not yet Could this end badly? Please refer to the title I have every confidence in you Andy. I would imagine you'd work the final shape of the cradle much as they used to with white metal bearings; by hand with a scraper to take off the witness marks left from rubbing the mating surfaces together with Engineer's Blue. Just don't use any Engineer's Blue in this process as it is a bugger to clean off of metal, let alone timber! Joking aside, I'd think that you'd have to have a little movement in the joint to allow you to identify the high spots. Rubbing the pieces together with no highlighting agent should work okay if you can see the shiny spots where contact is made. Interesting problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: I have every confidence in you Andy. I would imagine you'd work the final shape of the cradle much as they used to with white metal bearings; by hand with a scraper to take off the witness marks left from rubbing the mating surfaces together with Engineer's Blue. Just don't use any Engineer's Blue in this process as it is a bugger to clean off of metal, let alone timber! Joking aside, I'd think that you'd have to have a little movement in the joint to allow you to identify the high spots. Rubbing the pieces together with no highlighting agent should work okay if you can see the shiny spots where contact is made. Interesting problem. Mount the body at an angle on the table and use the horizontal arbour (sic) with a fly cutter to cut the curve... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SpondonBassed said: I have every confidence in you Andy. I would imagine you'd work the final shape of the cradle much as they used to with white metal bearings; by hand with a scraper to take off the witness marks left from rubbing the mating surfaces together with Engineer's Blue. Just don't use any Engineer's Blue in this process as it is a bugger to clean off of metal, let alone timber! Joking aside, I'd think that you'd have to have a little movement in the joint to allow you to identify the high spots. Rubbing the pieces together with no highlighting agent should work okay if you can see the shiny spots where contact is made. Interesting problem. 52 minutes ago, Si600 said: Mount the body at an angle on the table and use the horizontal arbour (sic) with a fly cutter to cut the curve... Probably a bit of both I'm going to draw it full size over the next couple of days but I'm pretty sure the bottom of the neck pocket will end up at the level of the back wood. If so, the only thing I have to fillet is the top wood, starting from a rectangular 'neck pocket' shaped hole. If so, a bullnose router bit or similar isn't a bad idea to rough it out @Si600 , and remembering the apprentice school engineer blue fitting techniques- but using blackboard chalk instesd of blue and scrapers to fine finish it all off, @SpondonBassed .... So I might have to retitle to: "Andyjr1515, Si600 & Spondonbassed meet their Nemesis?" Edited January 17, 2019 by Andyjr1515 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: Ah...but if it all fails, I have to buy @fleabag a new neck.... Not such a bad thing. I'm getting a pain in mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Andyjr1515 said: If so, the only thing I have to fillet is the top wood, starting from a rectangular 'neck pocket' shaped hole. If so, a bullnose router bit or similar isn't a bad idea to rough it out @Si600 , and remembering the apprentice school engineer blue fitting techniques- but using blackboard chalk instesd of blue and scrapers to fine finish it all off, @SpondonBassed .... With weird 1:1 panto-graph arrangement to follow the existing neck profile and repeat it in reverse on the body? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTool Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I hope you managed to fit in a cup of tea between finishing the SwiftLite 2 and starting this one Andy 😲 Here we go again....😎 Following 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, BassTool said: I hope you managed to fit in a cup of tea between finishing the SwiftLite 2 and starting this one Andy 😲 Here we go again....😎 Following Actually, just put the final touches on the Swift Lite 2 a moment ago so close but no cigar cup of tea! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Si600 said: With weird 1:1 panto-graph arrangement to follow the existing neck profile and repeat it in reverse on the body? No Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Andyjr1515 said: Actually, just put the final touches on the Swift Lite 2 a moment ago so close but no cigar cup of tea! Oh surely not. Go on, sink one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Oi - put that tea down and get cracking ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I'm waiting to see Andy's Nemesis with a black eye and knocked on his derriere.... Come on Andy!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Is the bass going to be called Nemesis? Cool. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) @Andyjr1515 what's the blue bass earlier on in this thread? Edited January 18, 2019 by Fishman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fishman said: @Andyjr1515 what's the blue bass earlier on in this thread? Fender Rascal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 blimey! never seen one before, which is surprising considering the amount of time I spend on here, obsessing, gassing and generally wasting time 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrumpymike Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Fishman said: blimey! never seen one before, which is surprising considering the amount of time I spend on here, obsessing, gassing and generally wasting time 😀 Fender seem to have kept them a closely guarded secret. Apart from the ergo's (fixed by Andy's re-body), it was the best passive bass I'd ever played. Now it's the best in every respect. But enough of my bass - back to fleabag's 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, scrumpymike said: . But enough of my bass - back to fleabag's 😉 Actually, a useful distraction based on the fact that I haven't got any further with @fleabag 's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Aaron Armstrong said get yer finger out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, fleabag said: Aaron Armstrong said get yer finger out Haven't got my finger out.... ...but I HAVE got the drawing board out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 An idea? Wrap the neck in cling film then cast it in plaster. You can then take measurements, make cardboard templates, etc. from the positive form 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Norris said: An idea? Wrap the neck in cling film then cast it in plaster. You can then take measurements, make cardboard templates, etc. from the positive form Heroic 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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