fleabag Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I'm enjoying the peak - said the actress to the bishop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 No problem - peak and longer horn it is then, you naughty thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 @fleabag - I'd missed off the control plate off my mockup. You going to post your mockup of my mockup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Nope - leaving a bit of mystery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, fleabag said: Nope - leaving a bit of mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Casting. I can't believe @Andyjr1515 isn't going that route. Make up a negative form using the body wood and the neck, fill with resin and voila. Once it's cured then neck will fit perfectly, the resin will have taken on the grain from the form and it'll just need painting and fitting the hardware. What could possibly go wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'd make the non-cut bit at the top meet the neck at 90 degrees, like an acoustic, but it's not my bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Ah...may have hit my first snag. There are options so not the end of the world, but maybe a rethink in terms of the 'Walnut top and back' approach... Or maybe I can design the issue out. When I was visualising the back and top from the same planks, I was banking on the shorter lower horn making space for the solid upper horn: But I was thinking 'normal' configuration where the top has a cutaway for the neck pocket Just now, drawing the back: ...I'm remembering that, to fillet underneath the neck, both the top and the back go beyond the centre-line. So - as pictured - it's not going to fit. I'm going to get the planks out and see how much leeway I actually have. This is a shorter body than the 'P' I used for the original chalk marks, so it MIGHT just fit. Plan B, if it doesn't quite fit but misses by just a tiny bit is to shorten the body length a tiny bit more Plan C, if it doesn't fit by a lot, is to use a different wood for the back. I've actually got some of the same Sapele as I used on the back of @scrumpymike 's build so it wouldn't be the end of the world: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Contrasting central strip giving it a neck through look using some of that purple heart and some maple? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Well - as it happens, every challenge is an opportunity First of all, checking the walnut against a full-size template, by just shortening the bass by 1/2", which wouldn't change the look at all, I can actually fit it all on... : Top Back But in the PM discussions with @fleabag, we kicked around Plan C in any case and... ..we're going for it A Sapele back - still with the purpleheart in between - means I can widen the rear bout to P bass size (which @fleabag would prefer) and the difference between the two widths of the top to the back gives me scope for a 'sucked lozenge' carve between the two. It has every chance of looking fabulous Oh...and this has just arrived Call me presumptuous, but I reckon that could be a neck and bridge Edited January 21, 2019 by Andyjr1515 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Well - as it happens, every challenge is an opportunity First of all, checking the walnut against a full-size template, by just shortening the bass by 1/2", which wouldn't change the look at all, I can actually fit it all on... : Top Back But in the PM discussions with @fleabag, we kicked around Plan C in any case and... ..we're going for it A Sapele back - still with the purpleheart in between - means I can widen the rear bout to P bass size (which @fleabag would prefer) and the difference between the two widths of the top to the back gives me scope for a 'sucked lozenge' carve between the two. It has every chance of looking fabulous Oh...and this has just arrived Call me presumptuous, but I reckon that could be a neck and bridge Nah - that's the cigar your marvellous wife has ordered for you to celebrate your various No Treble successes (we can always hope, right!) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Daz39 said: Nah - that's the cigar your marvellous wife has ordered for you to celebrate your various No Treble successes (we can always hope, right!) I think 'Close, but no cigar' springs to mind. Or, considering this is MrsAndyjr1515 we are talking about, 'Not a chance....and DEFINITELY no cigar!!!!' Alfred (just in case...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Decided to take the laptop to the hospital - didnt wanna miss it all Looking sumptuous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, fleabag said: Decided to take the laptop to the hospital - didnt wanna miss it all Looking sumptuous Now that's dedication! Well, I reckon your instincts about the Sapele back are right, @fleabag The extra width we can get on that rear bout will balance up the look beautifully. Nice neck, by the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) That is looking bang on the money , Andy ! I was hoping the neck was well built, thanks for the confo Edited January 21, 2019 by fleabag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 For me the interesting bit will be the neck/body connection and how that aides or hampers playability. Concept is fantastic, so fingers crossed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I dont play past the 7th fret, Harry. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Someone has already raised the question of how this sort of joint will affect truss rod adjustment. I think I see it more as how will truss rod adjustment affect the extended butt joint. Is it to be bonded other than with the four screws? I'm guessing not. That suggests a gap may appear over time toward the end of the upper bout join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Someone has already raised the question of how this sort of joint will affect truss rod adjustment. I think I see it more as how will truss rod adjustment affect the extended butt joint. Is it to be bonded other than with the four screws? I'm guessing not. That suggests a gap may appear over time toward the end of the upper bout join. Ah...that assumes that I'm clever enough not to have a gap in the first place! Ref the specific point, if I base it on my experiment with the guitar neck, the actual distance from the end of the flat heel to where the top horn will come to is not very long. Bear in mind that the relief at the centre of a properly adjusted neck is miniscule, then the movement for an inch just past the heel will be a small fraction of miniscule. Almost certainly smaller than my building tolerances capability Or put more simply...I think that's the least of my problems.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Please mind the gap , Andy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: Well - as it happens, every challenge is an opportunity First of all, checking the walnut against a full-size template, by just shortening the bass by 1/2", which wouldn't change the look at all, I can actually fit it all on... : Top Back But in the PM discussions with @fleabag, we kicked around Plan C in any case and... ..we're going for it A Sapele back - still with the purpleheart in between - means I can widen the rear bout to P bass size (which @fleabag would prefer) and the difference between the two widths of the top to the back gives me scope for a 'sucked lozenge' carve between the two. It has every chance of looking fabulous Oh...and this has just arrived Call me presumptuous, but I reckon that could be a neck and bridge Actually it's a bridge and a neck. Try to keep up . If you wondering why the bidge isnt inside the main parcel ... Yup, smoked too much jazz cabbage again Edited January 21, 2019 by fleabag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Andyjr1515 said: Ah...that assumes that I'm clever enough not to have a gap in the first place! Ref the specific point, if I base it on my experiment with the guitar neck, the actual distance from the end of the flat heel to where the top horn will come to is not very long. Bear in mind that the relief at the centre of a properly adjusted neck is miniscule, then the movement for an inch just past the heel will be a small fraction of miniscule. Almost certainly smaller than my building tolerances capability Or put more simply...I think that's the least of my problems.... Just put a screw in it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, fleabag said: Actually it's a bridge and a neck. Try to keep up . If you wondering why the bidge isnt inside the main parcel ... Yup, smoked too much jazz cabbage again Jazz Cabbage. Title of my debut album, there... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I can't wait to smoke hear it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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