dave_bass5 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Probably something similar to the pre-amp he uses to get his sound, but in a pedal enclosure Which pre amp and which album 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Well I suppose I could buy a couple of RPM’s, Palmer speaker sim, an AD200 and Avalon DI and recreate the sound, or use the excellent Tech21 gear to get close to what he has live but have my own twist as even with his settings dialled perfectly exactly the Same, i’ll Never sound exactly the same. Its like dUg products, by all means I could bi-amp, but they have been engineered brilliantly into small boxes. Studio as you know is a different kettle of fish, often not the same bass as Live etc. But to answer your question, if he is using his signature pre-amp live and playing songs from multiple albums........ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, dave_bass5 said: Wondering what people are expecting from this pedal that other pedals cant do. After all , Geddy has never used one AFAIK. VT Bass and BDDI feature a clean blend; this has a touch of gain and EQ applied to the clean side, AKA the deep channel. Should sound fatter overall and make the two channels more cohesive. The VT and BDDI flub out with too much low end hitting the clipping circuit at high gain. The YYZ has a switch to cut the lows entering the dirt section. The BDDI has a mid scoop that you need to fight against with the EQ. The YYZ has a very present midrange, I'm interested in seeing how it compares to cranking up the character on the VT. I love the DuG pedal but it's best in a supportive role, humongous chasm in the mids creates space for heavy guitars yet still cuts and punches through. I would like something with more midrange poke for when the bass is taking on more of a lead role. Early reports from users experienced with all their previous pedals have said this is the best thing they've ever put out. That's why I want to try one. I've no interest in trying to sound like Geddy Lee, I've not listened to much Rush - I gave it a try once and had to switch it off! Edited May 6, 2019 by dannybuoy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Well let’s hope it lives up to it. Im sure it will sell well. I’ll wait and see more demos. Not interested in the Geddy tone as such but to does seem to be bringing something new to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) I’m a big 80s Rush fan, but as much as I’m intrigued by this pedal, I won’t be looking for Geddy’s tone, as something that suits me. It’ll certainly have to offer more than my VTDI for me to change (which, on paper at least, it seems to do). Edited May 6, 2019 by ezbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, ezbass said: I’m a big 80s Rush fan, but as much as I’m intrigued by this pedal, I won’t be looking for Geddy’s tone, as something that suits me. It’ll certainly have to offer more than my VTDI for me to change (which, on paper at least, it seems to do). Yep, 80’s Geddy is my fav period as well. I’m definitely interested in how the new pedal does the less dirty stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I might be alone but Ged’s tone on Hold Your Fire is my most favourite (followed by the grindy noodlings of Signals) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: I’m definitely interested in how the new pedal does the less dirty stuff. This is exactly what I’m interested in. Unfortunately, all the demos seem to be just Geddy fests, without really investigating its other potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Like the VT and BDDI I'm sure it's very flexible and suitable as a cleanish warm preamp as well. Time will tell, pre order incoming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 16/01/2019 at 13:05, MoJo said: To me Geddy's current tone is very 'Marmite'. I'm afraid I don't like it at all. I'm a big Rush/Geddy fan and have been so since the late 70's but much prefer his bass tone on the earlier albums, up to Moving Pictures, to the tone he uses these days I prefer Geddy's Rickenbacker sound to the subsequent ones; the Wal & Steinbergers were OK for the jackets with rolled-up sleeves phase, but I'll take the Ric, thanks. For me, you can get the Jazz to sound similar to a Ric on certain parts of the neck, but I prefer the colour the Ric paints as you move around the neck. I also don't like the look of a Jazz so much, with its blobby bottom. Moving Pictures is their best album, IMHO, with Clockwork Angels probably second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) Also a big fan of Geddy. He's right up there with the very best bassists for me. I'm skeptical, however, that any pedal is going to deliver 'canned Geddy' though. Bass, amp and cabs and, oh yes, that tiny point of having the technique of a legendary bass player. Edited May 6, 2019 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 But that’s not the point of the pedal - his rig has been engineered into the GED 2112, and now into pedal format to give you what he uses, to get your own sound near to it if you want, but also other sounds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, prowla said: I prefer Geddy's Rickenbacker sound to the subsequent ones; the Wal & Steinbergers were OK for the jackets with rolled-up sleeves phase, but I'll take the Ric, thanks. For me, you can get the Jazz to sound similar to a Ric on certain parts of the neck, but I prefer the colour the Ric paints as you move around the neck. I also don't like the look of a Jazz so much, with its blobby bottom. Moving Pictures is their best album, IMHO, with Clockwork Angels probably second. Yep, for me Moving Pictures is my fav Rush album. I saw them on the Moving Pictures tour, and was just getting in to them at that point so that album brings back very good memories when i hear it. Also agree about the Rick. Just something about the fullness and character of the upper notes that no other bass can match (IMO of course). A bass ive never owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: Yep, for me Moving Pictures is my fav Rush album. I saw them on the Moving Pictures tour, and was just getting in to them at that point so that album brings back very good memories when i hear it. Also agree about the Rick. Just something about the fullness and character of the upper notes that no other bass can match (IMO of course). A bass ive never owned. A bass you've never owned... yet! 😄 If you're making admiring statements like that, it won't be long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Al Krow said: A bass you've never owned... yet! 😄 If you're making admiring statements like that, it won't be long. Nah, never owned one for a reason 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Well, some people that pre-ordered in the US have received theirs already, so won’t be long until we see them over here. Another video has gone up: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TR0xosuYJxs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 When are we going to see these in the UK @Tech21NYC? I'm starting to get fidgety 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 06/05/2019 at 20:14, dave_bass5 said: Nah, never owned one for a reason 😉 Gwonthen - why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, prowla said: Gwonthen - why??? Cant afford one, and didn't feel comfortable on the couple i have played over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, dave_bass5 said: Cant afford one, and didn't feel comfortable on the couple i have played over the years. Ah - I was expecting a much more involved story than that! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, prowla said: Ah - I was expecting a much more involved story than that! 🙂 Or at least something a bit more incendiary! Me, I just think they're stinky poo... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, prowla said: Ah - I was expecting a much more involved story than that! 🙂 Just not a bass ive ever felt attracted to, at least not to own. I do like their tone. I’d happy accept one for free of course 😂 Edited June 18, 2019 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollin Thunder Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 On 06/05/2019 at 16:13, prowla said: I prefer Geddy's Rickenbacker sound to the subsequent ones; the Wal & Steinbergers were OK for the jackets with rolled-up sleeves phase, but I'll take the Ric, thanks. For me, you can get the Jazz to sound similar to a Ric on certain parts of the neck, but I prefer the colour the Ric paints as you move around the neck. I also don't like the look of a Jazz so much, with its blobby bottom. Moving Pictures is their best album, IMHO, with Clockwork Angels probably second. you know i have never played owned or even picked up a Ric and never even considered one, maybe i am missing something (not the cost of one tough) i love my Jazz and geddy played Jazz basses since late 70s early 80s anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosi Y'Anarchy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 It sucks that Tech 21 stuff is so expensive in the UK but fortunately I'm on holiday in the States at the moment and my YYZ should be arriving this week!!! When I get back to Blighty, I'll do a vid and share my thoughts. The videos I've seen sound very good and very much like geddy... But that's from one guy who is specifically trying to sound like geddy. I'll see how it fares when not using jazz basses or Ric's. My Gibson LP DC Tribute bass is about as far away from Geddy as I can get and if I think the YYZ sounds great with that, then winner, winner, chicken dinner. If not, then I'm sure it will love my Ibanez. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Guitar Guitar informed me that they don’t have any on order currently ☹️. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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