Quilly Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Once again I’m in a band where I have to pour oil in the waters and once again it’s a guitarist and Vox. Is this something that goes hand in hand with the low end ? I just think we’re a non egotistical breed (John waters excluded) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 In general I’d say so, we only seem to argue amongst ourselves in Off Topic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: In general I’d say so, we only seem to argue amongst ourselves in Off Topic Well we have to get it out of our systems somehow.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Skinnyman said: Well we have to get it out of our systems somehow.... The dreaded p v j argument or active v passive argument.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Quilly said: . . . . it’s a guitarist and Vox. . . . We know we're the cool ones so we don't have to shout about it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time putting out fires between singer and guitarist in more than one band. Always talking folk back from the ledge. It must be tough on a lead guitarist when audiences focus so fully on the vocalist when they (the guitarist) believe themselves the most charismatic, important member of the band. Add to that the simple fact that the drummer doesn't care if the guitar is there or not and the bass player is effortlessly the coolest guy/gal in the room, and you can see how that inflated ego gets so easily bruised. They then lash out. Drummer shrugs, bass player sighs, singer bites. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stewblack said: I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time putting out fires between singer and guitarist in more than one band. Always talking folk back from the ledge. It must be tough on a lead guitarist when audiences focus so fully on the vocalist when they (the guitarist) believe themselves the most charismatic, important member of the band. Add to that the simple fact that the drummer doesn't care if the guitar is there or not and the bass player is effortlessly the coolest guy/gal in the room, and you can see how that inflated ego gets so easily bruised. They then lash out. Drummer shrugs, bass player sighs, singer bites. I’m in a situation where I play bass for various ‘groups’ of musicians (due to lack of bassists ) so I’m usually introducing one insecure diva to another ... usually end in tears with me in the middle (the drummer is also usually in 5 other bands and doesn’t care ). I love just standing at the back of the room with a few beers on the go and playing great bass lines . Edited January 26, 2019 by Quilly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 11 hours ago, stewblack said: It must be tough on a lead guitarist when audiences focus so fully on the vocalist when they (the guitarist) believe themselves the most charismatic, important member of the band. Nail/head. Those guitar-folk just can’t handle being Number Two. It also seems to really get their goats that no matter how much super gear they buy the singer strolls in carrying nothing (where the guitarist has all but moved house with the amount of gear they have) and all the attention is on said singer. The smart ones learn to sing lead vocals imo, to stop this bane of their lives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I hope not, I look terrible in blue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Lozz196 said: In general I’d say so, we only seem to argue amongst ourselves in Off Topic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 My guitarer is also the main singist and owns his own PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Norris said: My guitarer is also the main singist and owns his own PA Show off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 A bit of bass player diplomacy this morning. I'm not sure if one of the song suggestions would work. "I listened to XYZ this morning - might need a bit of arrangement to suit our lineup" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Norris said: A bit of bass player diplomacy this morning. I'm not sure if one of the song suggestions would work. "I listened to XYZ this morning - might need a bit of arrangement to suit our lineup" I think my version of diplomacy wouldn't get me into the UN peacekeepers. "Oh god no, it's stinky poo". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 We have our first paid gig this Thursday. I set it up, and invited a duo who both used to play with us to open for us, and jam with us for the third set. Saturday we all got together for the keys player's 60th birthday party and agreed that we'd play exactly what we were planning for the gig. All seemed to go well and everyone seemed to be happy. Then this morning the harp/vox in the duo sent a stinking email to the venue organiser claiming that he had arranged the gig, they were going to headline, and did she know if any other bands were going to be there? Followed this up by complaining to us that I had suddenly taken over organising it and even written their setlist - when what I had done was to send them our setlist and a suggestion for the third shared set. The guitarist in the duo was so angry that he's broken up the duo. Leaving us with three days (and one practice) to put together 2+ hours of material rather than the one hour we've prepared. It's a real shame, because the two of them sounded really good together. I'm sorry they've split, I was thinking about ways to help them get gigs. And I'm worried about Harpo, he's not usually like that afaIk. I'm also having trouble calming down. Luckily everyone else involved agrees that he's behaved badly and I've done no wrong. The guitarist is going to come and sit in with us. It will still be an "interesting" gig. 😞 Please excuse me ranting, I trust you guys to understand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Rant away, @josie; rant away. Then put it away in its place, in the past. You are responsible for your thoughts, deeds and interpretations, everyone else has that same responsibility, and will have to assume it. If the wrong end of the stick has been taken, let it go, and deal as best you can with what comes up. No point fretting or trying to analyse what others have understood of things, rightly or wrongly; just pick up the pieces and do your usual best. Life goes on, and it's not impossible that the future holds a reconciliation. What's the expression..? Oh yes... 'S**t happens'. Carry on, and enjoy the event with those that know and trust you. They're what count; the rest is blowin' in the wind. Edited January 29, 2019 by Dad3353 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Derek Smalls from Spinal Tap puts it succinctly. Luke warm water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_User Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On 25/01/2019 at 21:52, Lozz196 said: In general I’d say so, we only seem to argue amongst ourselves in Off Topic Oh no we don't! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Unknown_User said: Oh no we don't! Indeed not; this is 'General Discussion'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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