Deanol Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tauzero said: So it's rather like murder, because you've got to prove intent as well? 😁 Yes, and I believe that playing using the Locrian mode is still a capital offence, for which you will be hanged until dead. Although we haven't yet managed to catch Steve Vai and bring him to trial. Edited January 31, 2019 by Deanol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tauzero said: So it's rather like murder, because you've got to prove intent as well? 😁 Nicely put, and, in my view, exact. Someone playing a load of notes that happen to fall into such-and-such a pattern may have simply played a load of notes. Playing those same notes with intent is, to me, quite different. The ear wouldn't hear the difference in a one-off context, but seeing those same players would, over time, reveal which was playing 'randomly' and which had intent. Just my take on things, of course; others may well have differing opinions. Edited January 31, 2019 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Perhaps like some modern art. Look at a painting by, say, Rothko, and it is, say, an orange square. But Mrs S assures me that because there is a back story to the orange square and that it was painted by Rothko it is art and not just an orange square. Having said that I don't understand scales, modes et al any more than I do modern art. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, Paul S said: Perhaps like some modern art. Look at a painting by, say, Rothko, and it is, say, an orange square. But Mrs S assures me that because there is a back story to the orange square and that it was painted by Rothko it is art and not just an orange square. Having said that I don't understand scales, modes et al any more than I do modern art. When I first approached theory it was a bit like that orange square. 😁 Could not make head nor tail of it. However, I was interested enough to persevere, and while I am by no means an expert, I think my grasp of basic theory has not only helped my playing, but has enriched my appreciation of music in general. Yours (and other people's) milage may vary. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Coilte said: Does knowing the alphabet and how to spell make any difference to how you speak ? 😉 A good analogy, because music theory is like a foreign language to me. I do understand the basics, a bit like remembering basic German and French phrases from school, but just when I thin I've got a grasp, something proves me wrong. For example, I downloaded a II-V-I backing track in A Minor off YouTube and thought to myself, 'I can play the A minor pentatonic all over this' but have yet to produce anything that sounds vaguely musical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MoJo said: A good analogy, because music theory is like a foreign language to me. I do understand the basics, a bit like remembering basic German and French phrases from school, but just when I thin I've got a grasp, something proves me wrong. For example, I downloaded a II-V-I backing track in A Minor off YouTube and thought to myself, 'I can play the A minor pentatonic all over this' but have yet to produce anything that sounds vaguely musical Whatever about "foreign"...but music is indeed a language and like any language you need to start at a very basic level and build from there. As I said earlier, I am not a theory buff by any means but I think there is more to it than simply playing a pentatonic over a II V I progression. Perhaps this clip might be helpful if you are interested in pursuing your theory. It is part of a series of lessons that start VERY basic...as in "this is the headstock etc..😁. If you dont understand the terminology in the clip then start at a place that feels appropriate to you. I learned a lot from this set of lessons. Yes, there were times I felt frustrated and I was making no progress, but my interest and curiosity kept me going. Best of luck. Edited January 31, 2019 by Coilte 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Coilte said: When I first approached theory it was a bit like that orange square. 😁 Could not make head nor tail of it. However, I was interested enough to persevere, and while I am by no means an expert, I think my grasp of basic theory has not only helped my playing, but has enriched my appreciation of music in general. Yours (and other people's) milage may vary. 🙂 Crikey! Practice, modes and art in one thread! Is nothing sacred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Rothko helped me to give up drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 54 minutes ago, stewblack said: Rothko helped me to give up drugs That was good of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, FinnDave said: That was good of him. I know. Doubt he intended to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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