PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) We started using a dual amp or bi-amp set up. So much to work with now. Considering adding more in the future but not sure where to go next... Edited March 2, 2019 by PUREJOYPEOPLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Wat frequency are you crossing over at? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I ran a dual amp rig for about 10 years. I loved it. Then I got old and didn't want to lug about a pair of VBC412 cabs. And now I can do it all in my Helix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, BigRedX said: Wat frequency are you crossing over at? I use a Pog 2 instead of any crossover. Basically it tracks everything an octave up to the guitar effects and amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, fretmeister said: I ran a dual amp rig for about 10 years. I loved it. Then I got old and didn't want to lug about a pair of VBC412 cabs. And now I can do it all in my Helix. I have a Heliix for my guitar but it does not work well with my dual amp bass set up. Love it for guitar tho! I have made the bass set up pretty easy to transport. Using a Vox AC10 and my Mark Bass cab/amp. I could make it even easier to transport by getting the combo amp version of the Mark III but it's not that important yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebassist Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I play stereo bass in a bass/drums duo too - I use stereo mainly for ping-pong delay - it’s a lot of fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 It's something I'd love to try sometime, but the extra setup time, transport hassle and soundguy acceptance factor (when it's already a 6 piece band with brass) put me off. The gear I already have around would probably make for a fun setup though, maybe using my Schalltechnik HPF to roll the lows off the guitar combo rather than doing the octave thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 hours ago, thebassist said: I play stereo bass in a bass/drums duo too - I use stereo mainly for ping-pong delay - it’s a lot of fun. This looks awesome! What kind of amplifiers are this? Trickfish? Cant say I've heard of them but they look amazing I'd def fool around with your pedal board haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Beer of the Bass said: It's something I'd love to try sometime, but the extra setup time, transport hassle and soundguy acceptance factor (when it's already a 6 piece band with brass) put me off. The gear I already have around would probably make for a fun setup though, maybe using my Schalltechnik HPF to roll the lows off the guitar combo rather than doing the octave thing. Rad! This is a larger version of what I use (with different amplification) but I bet it cranks! I have access to an eq pedal that I can use as a HPF. Going to try that with the octave thing and see how that goes Thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) On 04/03/2019 at 17:43, PUREJOYPEOPLE said: I use a Pog 2 instead of any crossover. Basically it tracks everything an octave up to the guitar effects and amp I did this when we were playing some Royal Blood covers. I'd use an LS2 to split the signals then use the Octave Up from a micro POG into a Fuzz, then into a guitar amp. Though I could never get a sound I particularly liked through the guitar amp. The Octave up feed from the Micro POG always sounded a bit thin and artificial to me, even with a flip load of gain on the fuzz. Now I just get the guitarist to do the higher octave parts :). Edited March 5, 2019 by PJ-Bassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, PJ-Bassist said: I did this when we were playing some Royal Blood covers. I'd use an LS2 to split the signals then use the Octave Up from a micro POG into a Fuzz, then into a guitar amp. Though I could never get a sound I liked through the guitar amp. The Octave up feed from the Micro POG always sounded a bit thin and artificial to me, even with a flip load of gain on the fuzz. Now I just get the guitarist to do the higher octave parts :). Yup, that's pretty much how I do it. We're pretty happy with the guitar sound but always trying to improve it. When recording we can really dial it in The Pog 2 seems to be a better option because I can tweak it more. Amp def have a lot to do wit it as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 My pedal board from that era. Think I've sold all but 1 pedal on there, kind of regretting that after reading this thread ☹️. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, PJ-Bassist said: My pedal board from that era. Think I've sold all but 1 pedal on there, kind of regretting that after reading this thread ☹️. Interesting that you had 2 LS2 pedals... I just use one and the tuner for off/on switches. Was there a reason you found you needed to do that? Very cool simple set up tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, PUREJOYPEOPLE said: Interesting that you had 2 LS2 pedals... I just use one and the tuner for off/on switches. Was there a reason you found you needed to do that? Very cool simple set up tho Yup, keep it simple, I've never been one for crazy pedal boards. Only 1 of the LS-2s was used for the Bi-Amping. I had that LS-2 set up up so that I could have Bass and Guitar together or Guitar Only. I didn't need any bass only sections in the 2 or 3 RB covers we played. If I had then using the tuner to mute the guitar line would probably have worked well. The second LS-2 was used to mix the dry bass signal with the fuzz I had on the bass line at the time. The pedal didn't have a blend control it's self but it wasn't really needed as it retained the low end pretty well anyway. Edited March 6, 2019 by PJ-Bassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 hours ago, PJ-Bassist said: Yup, keep it simple, I've never been one for crazy pedal boards. Only 1 of the LS-2s was used for the Bi-Amping. I had that LS-2 set up up so that I could have Bass and Guitar together or Guitar Only. I didn't need any bass only sections in the 2 or 3 RB covers we played. If I had then using the tuner to mute the guitar line would probably have worked well. The second LS-2 was used to mix the dry bass signal with the fuzz I had on the bass line at the time. The pedal didn't have a blend control it's self but it wasn't really needed as it retained the low end pretty well anyway. I got ya. Very cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Or get an actual dual amp/ bi-amp amp head. All the sound - 1 box Edited March 6, 2019 by Cuzzie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 If you can't do it in the Helix then you are doing it wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 hours ago, fretmeister said: If you can't do it in the Helix then you are doing it wrong. Well, that is quite possible but the sounds just did not seem to work the same as individual pedals with my set up. They would possibly work well on the bass side but I need a lot less there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Cuzzie said: Or get an actual dual amp/ bi-amp amp head. All the sound - 1 box I am not aware of one that would have a tube guitar amp tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) @Tech21NYCTech 21 dUg Ultrabass 1000 Edited March 6, 2019 by Cuzzie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 And a 12 string bass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: @Tech21NYCTech 21 dUg Ultrabass 1000 Ooooo! That's badass haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUREJOYPEOPLE Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Cuzzie said: And a 12 string bass Whoa! I'm not quite that kind of bass ninja yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It’s about the best out there, just as an amp full stop. Alternatives - EBS Fafner from Sweden (one for sale on here), Wounded Paw from Canada, they have pedal versions of their amp, but for my money Tech21 is king 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just plugged this in at home for the first time this evening. Ashdown ABM500 through a pair of Aguilar DB112 cabs for the lows and a Laney Vc100 all valve head through a Laney IRT212 cab for the highs. You might be surprised to hear that it's quite loud. 😐 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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