lemmywinks Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Deluxe-5-String-Thru-Neck-Electric-Bass-Guitar-With-Active-Pick-ups/283369501889?hash=item41fa2374c1:g:mj8AAOSwvtBcXByA https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Deluxe-5-String-Thru-Neck-Electric-Bass-Guitar-With-Active-Pick-ups/283377840412?hash=item41faa2b11c:g:3CAAAOSwi0FcYYg3 Annoyingly I missed out on the BZ-5000, these aren't even properly described so it looks like they're just being bought and flipped with copy paste descriptions. Stamped "D" clearly visible on the backs of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 He also lists them as made in Germany which they clearly are not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Where have these originated from? Thomann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Yeah they got snapped up really quickly and were sold out when I clicked on the BZ5000, there's still a fretless 5 string version of the other bass on there but it's well overpriced compared to what they listed these ones at, been hanging around on there for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 7 hours ago, MoJo said: Where have these originated from? Thomann? Yeah, he omits to mention who made them and where they are made, wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I dont see any D stamped on them, but then agan i'm as blind as a fruitbat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) £230 + £37 postage! What's the point? Another couple of quid and you can buy new direct from Thomann. Edited March 5, 2019 by Newfoundfreedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsmokebass Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 03/03/2019 at 23:36, yorks5stringer said: He also lists them as made in Germany which they clearly are not. Can he actually do that though? Surely thats a breech of the sales act. Surprised he hasn't been taken down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 hours ago, fleabag said: I dont see any D stamped on them, but then agan i'm as blind as a fruitbat Can see them on the topmost of the thicker neck laminates, just outside the heel scoop. Thar's where they usually are on dekos - on the body just before the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Cheers lemmy - i was looking much further up the neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I've been eyeing up the 4 string versions of these on Thomann for a while now. I'm really tempted. They look amazing for the price and the reviews are excellent. However, the listings above don't mention the Harley Benton (Thomann own brand) label but they're definitely the same instrument. So would someone care to enlighten me as to what a "Deko" is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 A Deko is sold for 'decoration' purposes only, i.e., for hanging on your wall. There will be usually a defect in such models 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The defect being that bluddy great letter D stamped on the back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky_lowdown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said: I've been eyeing up the 4 string versions of these on Thomann for a while now. I'm really tempted. They look amazing for the price and the reviews are excellent. However, the listings above don't mention the Harley Benton (Thomann own brand) label but they're definitely the same instrument. So would someone care to enlighten me as to what a "Deko" is? Deko is damaged or customer returned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 So this guy is selling "decoration only" basses for almost the same price as the same basses new and under warranty direct from Thomann? Seems like a bargain. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoJo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Newfoundfreedom said: So this guy is selling "decoration only" basses for almost the same price as the same basses new and under warranty direct from Thomann? Seems like a bargain. 😕 Yes, yes he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said: So this guy is selling "decoration only" basses for almost the same price as the same basses new and under warranty direct from Thomann? Seems like a bargain. 😕 and they go for around £50-60 but sell out almost instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) He's not the only one doing it. There's another repeat offender. Edited March 6, 2019 by BreadBin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just found another one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Active-Passive-Electric-Bass-Guitar-In-Black/264229987700?hash=item3d8555a574:g:B6MAAOSwZrtcglEM "There are a couple of small couple of marks on the back of the bass as shown in the last photo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I've had words with this guy before. He was describing them as 'German Engineered' and I took him to task. I pointed out he did not disclose they were decos anywhere and they were made in the Far East and it was disingenuous to imply otherwise. His reply was quite angry....! I notice he says on the above ' Please note that all photographs form part of the description of the item.' Does that mean if I buy it and then complain it is a deco he can say 'it's shown in the photo as a 'mark'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 06/03/2019 at 19:05, BreadBin said: He's not the only one doing it. There's another repeat offender. That would be barrmcgabarr, I suspect. Avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, alyctes said: That would be barrmcgabarr, I suspect. Avoid. The very same, I didn't know about Dekos when I made an offer on my 5 string fretless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, alyctes said: That would be barrmcgabarr, I suspect. Avoid. One of his negative feedbacks on a 4 string bass definitely sounds like one of the admittedly rare write off dekos: Private Not as described. Needed new strings & a set up. Possibly needs a new neck too! Seems like he isn't even checking them, just using stock photos and flipping them, naughty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 14 hours ago, lemmywinks said: One of his negative feedbacks on a 4 string bass definitely sounds like one of the admittedly rare write off dekos: Private Not as described. Needed new strings & a set up. Possibly needs a new neck too! Seems like he isn't even checking them, just using stock photos and flipping them, naughty. I didn't get as far as his feedback; just the evident dekos, overpriced and dishonestly described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzoid Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 More from barmcgabarr have just shown - looked at eBay's "Report an item" options but they have nothing that covers this kind of sharp practice... the "closest" option is "Fraudulent lIsting activities" but the following option is just "You suspect that a listing is fraudulent". Nothing else fits and I can see that just being ignored. The people who do this are complete tossers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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