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Rhythm Stick .. My band don't "get" it


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Here's what one said after I sent them the youtube of MarloweDK playing it



"Weird, that's not how I "heard" it, just goes to show.
[b]In fact while it's a nice bumbling along bassline, it doesn't really drive the track[/b],
... sounds to me like it's keys and guitar that drive it along."


I guess they are not bassplayers :)
I just just hope it goes down really well on stage :huh:

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I don't think our guitarist thinks that any bass line has ever driven any track along, ever.

In fact, I'm not even sure he knows what a "driving bass line" is.


I tried to raise this issue with him once or twice about a few other songs, but he just didn't get it... must be something only bass players understand!

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Hard to believe anyone could be anything but impressed by this bassline (even a non-bass player) Saw Norman Watt Roy playing it last year, really close up (when he was touring with Wilko / The Hamsters / John Otway). Otway introduced it as a bassline no one else could play but the guy on YouTube does a bloody good job. If you're going to play it live - good luck.

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I think I'm right in saying that it was the bassline that was the prime mover for the track being born in the first place. I can also say that the bassline is not original and is from a song of around 15-20 years earlier...blowed if I know which one though!
S' OK: hose me down in napalm if I'm in error. :)

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I do this in one of my bands and it always goes down really well (1 or 2 people have even commented (positively) on my bass! :) )
It took me ages to get the feel OK without it sounding rushed, but I can't play it as well as this guy!
It's also important to make sure it's not counted in too fast, otherwise I'm screwed.
Great tune. Norman is The Man.

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[quote name='zigmondo' post='348926' date='Dec 8 2008, 06:56 PM']I can also say that the bassline is not original and is from a song of around 15-20 years earlier...blowed if I know which one though!
S' OK: hose me down in napalm if I'm in error. :huh:[/quote]

Also in the main riff, when it goes to the Db bit...
Its a Jaco quote...
And again...Blowed if i know which one though... :)


Garry

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[quote name='lowdown' post='349032' date='Dec 8 2008, 08:47 PM']I was thinking of the chorus on 'Come on over' [Jaco solo album, the track with Sam & Dave on Vox]


Garry[/quote]

Yeah, i noticed that too, one of his fills is exactly like it.

The thing is, there will always be similarities in music, whether you mean it or not - take the Satch and Coldplay debacle.
Also it'd be quite easy to slip in a fill from a similar bassline you're more used to playing, either intentionally or by habit. - that's why all my playing sounds the same!
:)

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It's a VERY long time since I heard [i]Rhythm Stick[/i] for the first time, and I wasn't a bass player in those days.

I had that bass line in my head as catchy, tricky, repetitive and fast. Seeing what it looks like when played properly, it's a much cleverer and more varied bass line than I realised and far more subtle too.

Damn.

I may have to devote a ridiculous amount of time to learning to play that not very well.

Ah well, plenty of time off over Xmas.

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[quote name='YouMa' post='349295' date='Dec 9 2008, 01:56 AM']One of the most difficult bass lines i have ever flirted with,i am trying to slap teen town at the moment its working out easier.Watt roy had great feel.[/quote]

Too right! it's solid, as is Teen town, that's got to be a mean task, slapping Teen Town!

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