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15/12/-8 - I've decided to keep the Starfire after all, cheers to everyone who suggested I reconsider :)

So, I have my Starfire with darkstars in, tried it at reasonable volumes, and while it sounds great, it's not really my sound. In between getting the starfire and taking delivery of the dark stars (about six weeks) , I traded my precision for a ray, which I then upgraded with a status graphite neck, and now I'm pretty much sorted.

The bass is black, with lots of chrome, and looks the absolute dogs - I will try and get some pics up over the next few days. I'm not sure I really want to let it go, but it isn't going to get played as much as it deserves to so it should really go to someone who will.

So there you go, it's taken me a fair few days to get to the stage of posting a feeler, I thought I'd gauge if there's any interest.

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[quote name='EssentialTension' post='352070' date='Dec 11 2008, 07:09 PM']Steve, don't rush into selling it too soon. The Dark Stars can take a while to get used to; they are an unusual pickup. I'm missing mine.[/quote]


[quote name='GreeneKing' post='352071' date='Dec 11 2008, 07:17 PM']I would agree with that. I've a single one on my Warmoth and initially I wasn't so sure but now it's my No. 1 bass. Very wide frequency band imo.[/quote]

I'm certainly going to defer my decision till after the weekend, as I have a band rehearsal Sunday evening and I'll give it a try on a few songs.

To everyone who requested pics, I'll try to take some tomorrow if the lights good

As regards to price, i've had some thoughts, but not completely decided yet. Sorry to be mysterious, but it's still a feeler ATM :) :huh:

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[quote name='steve' post='351985' date='Dec 11 2008, 05:59 PM']what did you buy 5 days ago?[/quote]


[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200281709055"]THIS[/url], obviously it's going to have a darkstar in it, 5 days ago i would have had the funds but now unfortunately my chance has gone :) Give it some more time with the dark stars, they do bite at first but you may love them with time.

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[quote name='steve-norris' post='352270' date='Dec 11 2008, 11:16 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200281709055"]THIS[/url], obviously it's going to have a darkstar in it, 5 days ago i would have had the funds but now unfortunately my chance has gone :) Give it some more time with the dark stars, they do bite at first but you may love them with time.[/quote]

nice, and it's crying out to be dark-starred innit

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as promised, heres a couple of pics in 'daylight' - I'm in Manchester so I use the term loosely :)

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As you can see, she's a bit dusty from lack of use! The switches are an addition from a previous owner, they're currently 'wired' as producer switches, but I was considering hard-wiring some resistor/capacitor combinations so I could switch between the standard tone pot or a preset.

I'll add more pics etc if this turns into a full blown sale thread

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[quote name='Toasted' post='352607' date='Dec 12 2008, 12:06 PM']Do you have a price?[/quote]

I'd be wanting around £600 collected for her if I do sell.

As far as trades/px's go, things I may be interested in are ERBs (especially headless), EUBs, possibly a Boss RC50, Markbass or other lightweight head. I don't have any cash to add to the deal (two kids at Xmas have seen to that :)), but I may have other stuff to add to a trade if needed.

Not interested in Fenders tho' - been there and tried them, not my cup of tea.

As I've said above, if I do sell, I'll put more pics up,

I would prefer to meet up face to face as I have no hard case, and I'd like the buyer to be sure they're happy with the bass (I've no doubt that would be the case)

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[quote name='steve' post='352540' date='Dec 12 2008, 11:20 AM']I was considering hard-wiring some resistor/capacitor combinations so I could switch between the standard tone pot or a preset.[/quote]


sounds like you need a HAS sound varitone



they work very well with darkstar'd basses, i had one in a single DS holllow body and basically you have 6 tones at the twist of a knob

have a look here [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Electric+Bass+Pickup/product/HAS+Sound/Bass+Varitone/10/1"]review[/url] Highly recomended.

[url="http://www.has-sound.com/"]HAS sound[/url] get in quick as they are shutting down that side of the business.

You might get the impression i want you to keep the starfire, hollow body basses with darkstars are a unique sound and you will be lucky to find another.

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[quote name='steve-norris' post='353187' date='Dec 12 2008, 09:59 PM']sounds like you need a HAS sound varitone



they work very well with darkstar'd basses, i had one in a single DS holllow body and basically you have 6 tones at the twist of a knob

have a look here [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Electric+Bass+Pickup/product/HAS+Sound/Bass+Varitone/10/1"]review[/url] Highly recomended.

[url="http://www.has-sound.com/"]HAS sound[/url] get in quick as they are shutting down that side of the business.

You might get the impression i want you to keep the starfire, hollow body basses with darkstars are a unique sound and you will be lucky to find another.[/quote]

I've come across the has-sound website before, but I'd intended to knock something up myself, it's only replicating a tone circuit using a resistor instead of a potentiometer after all. I'd be inclined to guess that the has circuits are just switched resisitor/capacitor pairs. Cheers for the heads up tho'

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[quote name='steve' post='353283' date='Dec 13 2008, 12:16 AM']I'd be inclined to guess that the has circuits are just switched resisitor/capacitor pairs.[/quote]
It might be worth exploring the website (inc sound samples) and review a bit ... I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The HAS website talks about 'notch filters' in the varitone description and the review talks about 'quality capacitors and chokes'. You don't find chokes in the average bass tone circuitry.

Andy

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[quote]Chokes are fixed inductors primarily intended to "choke" off alternating currents, including rf from DC supply lines. The "rf choke" is designed to have a high impedance over a large range of frequencies[/quote] taken from [url="http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/chokes.htm"]http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/chokes.htm[/url]

AFAIK its the old fashioned way of building filters that pre-dates op amps - altho some electronics guru will prolly be along soon to rap my knuckles and correct me

BBN - you're right of course, I'm sure the HAS filters are more complex, my statement was one of wine-induced optimism :)

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