Extreme optimism

[Clarky]

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FENDER-SQUIER-JV-SERIES-1982-PRECISION-LABELLE-SUNBURST_W0QQitemZ250342861569QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item250342861569&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FENDER-SQUIER-JV-SER...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

[stevie]

[quote name='Clarky' post='354140' date='Dec 14 2008, 11:40 AM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FENDER-SQUIER-JV-SERIES-1982-PRECISION-LABELLE-[/quote]

Nice to see the prices being bumped up. There's a Jazz JV priced at over £2,000 on at the moment, and it isn't even an export model.

Prices for these are all over the place right now. A red one fetched £900 on eBay in the summer - and it didn't even have the large Fender logo. I've been watching them all year, as I have one to sell myself, and judging the right time to offer it is really tricky.

According to the specialist web site, only 200 Fender guitars and basses (all models) with the large logo were imported to the UK, which means under 20 of each type of Precision. The States didn't get any. So, the first-generation Precisions like the one in the ad are extremely rare by any standards. I have only seen one on eBay all this year, although there have been quite a few later model Squires.

Bear in mind also that the pound is now tumbling against the euro whilst there seems to be a high demand for these from Italy (no idea why).

Having said all that, I do agree with your assessment. Could be that the seller doesn't really need to sell and is just pushing the boat out. It would take a very brave man to put one on eBay at 99p just now.

[wateroftyne]

Hmm... £1200 could buy you all sorts.. including a Fullerton '62RI.

I know where my money would go...

[stevie]

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='354172' date='Dec 14 2008, 12:38 PM']Hmm... £1200 could buy you all sorts.. including a Fullerton '62RI.

I know where my money would go...[/quote]

A lot of people's money is simply going where they feel it will bring them the best return. Shame really. These are just second hand guitars after all.

You could always spend two grand on a brand new reissue like this one:
[url="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flypage/product_id/11261"]http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flypage/product_id/11261[/url]

Why anybody would want to is beyond me.

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='stevie' post='354189' date='Dec 14 2008, 01:00 PM']A lot of people's money is simply going where they feel it will bring them the best return. Shame really. These are just second hand guitars after all.[/quote]

Indeed... but, if you're spending this amount of money on a bass that will do the same job as something much cheaper, one eye is always going to be on 'investment'. Otherwise, you may as well choose the cheaper one.

[quote name='stevie' post='354189' date='Dec 14 2008, 01:00 PM']You could always spend two grand on a brand new reissue like this one:
[url="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flypage/product_id/11261"]http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flypage/product_id/11261[/url]

Why anybody would want to is beyond me.[/quote]

That's not a straight reissue - it's a Custom Shop bass. It's not something I'd spend 2K on, either...

[thebeat]

[quote]THIS INSTRUMENT IS A QUALITY BASS FAR SUPERIOR THAN ANY MODERN USA[/quote]


Tried them all have you mate? Talk about hype. Some people

[stevie]

[quote name='thebeat' post='354295' date='Dec 14 2008, 03:34 PM']Tried them all have you mate? Talk about hype. Some people [/quote]

I believe he is simply summarising the general argument that is made for vintage basses and guitars: old ones are good and new ones are not. I can't see what else drives the prices of vintage guitars. It can't be rarity - these were factory-built, mass produced consumer products. Not exactly Chippendale. Early Les Pauls might be an exception, but not Fender basses.

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

[thebeat]

[quote name='stevie' post='354371' date='Dec 14 2008, 05:19 PM']I believe he is simply summarising the general argument that is made for vintage basses and guitars: old ones are good and new ones are not.[/quote]

...you don't say? and there was me thinking that he was trying to make out he'd tried them all

[thebeat]

[quote name='stevie' post='354371' date='Dec 14 2008, 05:19 PM']Someone tell me I'm wrong.[/quote]


I'm not telling you anything...you might mis-understand it again.

[wateroftyne]

[quote name='stevie' post='354371' date='Dec 14 2008, 05:19 PM']I believe he is simply summarising the general argument that is made for vintage basses and guitars: old ones are good and new ones are not.

Someone tell me I'm wrong.[/quote]

OK - I'll do that.

It's also about nostalgia, and investment... which is self-perpetuating.

[kevbass]

Lets be honest here, the only people likely to spend that amount of money on a bass guitar are either seasond players or people who are well aware of what sort of a bass would go for that sort of money. So he's wasting his time.

[stevie]

[quote name='kevbass' post='354462' date='Dec 14 2008, 07:03 PM']Lets be honest here, the only people likely to spend that amount of money on a bass guitar are either seasond players or people who are well aware of what sort of a bass would go for that sort of money. So he's wasting his time.[/quote]

Of course you're right - but this is eBay, and the normal rules of common sense don't always apply. And some people have more money than sense.

[stevie]

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='354172' date='Dec 14 2008, 12:38 PM']Hmm... £1200 could buy you all sorts.. including a Fullerton '62RI.[/quote]

I found one for you on eBay
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-Fender-Precision-Bass-Fullerton-RI_W0QQitemZ160303286849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item160303286849"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-Fender-Precisio...tem160303286849[/url]

£2,350 no less. I'd expect a semi-detached in Barnsley for that much.

Edited December 14, 2008 by stevie

[Clarky]

[quote name='stevie' post='354603' date='Dec 14 2008, 09:40 PM']I found one for you on eBay
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-Fender-Precision-Bass-Fullerton-RI_W0QQitemZ160303286849QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item160303286849"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-Fender-Precisio...tem160303286849[/url]

£2,350 no less. I'd expect a semi-detached in Barnsley for that much. [/quote]
Mind you here's a nice Fullerton 83 for a much better value £825 [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1983-fender-fullerton-bass-guitar_W0QQitemZ330294495205QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item330294495205&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1983-fender-fullerto...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url]

Edited December 14, 2008 by Clarky