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ped Grand Master

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  On 15/08/2022 at 21:44, AndyTravis said:

Finally. Back in the club.

 

A (not battered) burner. 1993.

 

Looking forward to arrival.

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Nice. One of the best Smiths I’ve played was a JJ Burner like that. Enjoy 👍🏼

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AndyTravis Grand Master

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  On 15/08/2022 at 21:50, ped said:

Nice. One of the best Smiths I’ve played was a JJ Burner like that. Enjoy 👍🏼

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I had one for about 4 seconds in 2009.

 

I arrived home to play it and the ex had quit her job and we had to pay back maternity leave pay…it was a deluxe walnut like this…

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LewisK1975 Proficient

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  On 15/08/2022 at 21:44, AndyTravis said:

Finally. Back in the club.

 

A (not battered) burner. 1993.

 

Looking forward to arrival.

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That's stunning Andy! - I wonder if that will arrive before I come to collect the Yamaha from you...

 

And if so will I be allowed to even look at it?!?!

 

Seriously tho - Beautiful Bass!

 

 

 

CookPassBabtridge Experienced

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  On 15/08/2022 at 21:53, AndyTravis said:

I had one for about 4 seconds in 2009.

 

I arrived home to play it and the ex had quit her job and we had to pay back maternity leave pay…it was a deluxe walnut like this…

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That is lovely. Like how it matches a lot of the walnut BSRs…it would go with mine very nicely anyway 😬

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  On 17/08/2022 at 09:32, AndyTravis said:

Yeah that’s the one.

 

the six is now at 2500, obviously nobody wanted it at 2900 🫣

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The one on Reverb? I get the impression that many sellers on there are in dreamland about what their bass is worth. It was a steal but I picked up a Dingwall AB2 6 that started up there at £3,500. I paid just under £1800 for it in the end!

Burners, especially a 6, are a bit tricky to price. They’re not the boutique US elite quality, but I’ve heard great things about playability. Still wouldn’t pay a penny more than £1500 for it ;)

 

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  On 20/08/2022 at 10:37, FDC484950 said:


The one on Reverb? I get the impression that many sellers on there are in dreamland about what their bass is worth. It was a steal but I picked up a Dingwall AB2 6 that started up there at £3,500. I paid just under £1800 for it in the end!

Burners, especially a 6, are a bit tricky to price. They’re not the boutique US elite quality, but I’ve heard great things about playability. Still wouldn’t pay a penny more than £1500 for it ;)

 

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2.5k is very punchy price for that. (I recently bought a BT5G for not a great deal more!) The seller seems to think it's a US model just cause KS signature is in the control cavity, but I think that's just cause he did the setup/QC on them. Still it's an early-ish Burner model with the older headstock shape. 

What's the difference on the Burner pickups vs the US pickups?

Kiwi Grand Master

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The one on Reverb? I get the impression that many sellers on there are in dreamland about what their bass is worth. It was a steal but I picked up a Dingwall AB2 6 that started up there at £3,500. I paid just under £1800 for it in the end!

Burners, especially a 6, are a bit tricky to price. They’re not the boutique US elite quality, but I’ve heard great things about playability. Still wouldn’t pay a penny more than £1500 for it ;)

 

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It's actually a strategy to test interest out.  They can monitor the number of watchers and, if they're serious about selling, they'll lower the price for a quick sale.  Alternatively they will hang on an outrageous price to hook someone who is desperate and willing to pay above the odds...thereby setting a new precedent for others to use as the basis for yet an even more outrageous price.  It worked for Wal basses.

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obi 2 kenobi

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The one on Reverb? I get the impression that many sellers on there are in dreamland about what their bass is worth. It was a steal but I picked up a Dingwall AB2 6 that started up there at £3,500. I paid just under £1800 for it in the end!

Burners, especially a 6, are a bit tricky to price. They’re not the boutique US elite quality, but I’ve heard great things about playability. Still wouldn’t pay a penny more than £1500 for it ;)

 

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Do Burners not have super tight string spacing? I had a green 5 string bought from this parish many years ago. 16mm string spacing. Didn’t keep it long for that reason, though top quality luthiery. Still have a BT5 & 6 with much better 18mm spacing. 

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  On 20/08/2022 at 13:32, Kiwi said:

It's actually a strategy to test interest out.  They can monitor the number of watchers and, if they're serious about selling, they'll lower the price for a quick sale.  Alternatively they will hang on an outrageous price to hook someone who is desperate and willing to pay above the odds...thereby setting a new precedent for others to use as the basis for yet an even more outrageous price.  It worked for Wal basses.

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It’s a curious strategy with something that although interesting and reasonably rare, is a niche instrument (6 string with awful upper fret access, very tight spacing, and almost definitely north of 5Kg). Wal have a certain cachet that they got very soon after Pete the fish hung up his tools, and their unique electronics and celebrity users (Paul McCartney, Geddy Lee, JMJ etc) helped fuel the mystique. This seller may have some rich desperate clown hit buy but it’s more likely to sink a fair bit below £2K before it shifts.

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  On 20/08/2022 at 18:17, obi 2 kenobi said:

Do Burners not have super tight string spacing? I had a green 5 string bought from this parish many years ago. 16mm string spacing. Didn’t keep it long for that reason, though top quality luthiery. Still have a BT5 & 6 with much better 18mm spacing. 

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They do indeed, great basses but that's the main reason I haven't looked at acquiring one. Then again I'm on the other end of the scale (I like 20mm spacing).

Mikey D Experienced

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  On 20/08/2022 at 18:17, obi 2 kenobi said:

Do Burners not have super tight string spacing? I had a green 5 string bought from this parish many years ago. 16mm string spacing. Didn’t keep it long for that reason, though top quality luthiery. Still have a BT5 & 6 with much better 18mm spacing. 

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A 5 string burner in green. Seafoam green like Hadrien's?

 

I've been looking for a used one but convinced there are no others out there in that colour way. Or they never come up for sale at least. 

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obi 2 kenobi

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  On 21/08/2022 at 18:19, Mikey D said:

A 5 string burner in green. Seafoam green like Hadrien's?

 

I've been looking for a used one but convinced there are no others out there in that colour way. Or they never come up for sale at least. 

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It was translucent dark green. Nice colour. Tried to sell it on basschat for £800 but no takers sadly 

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  On 23/08/2022 at 22:11, AndyTravis said:

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just found this on Pinterest…

 

it’s my old picture of my old smith burner deluxe…jeez 

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Yeh but you’ve had (and I assume still have) some incredible basses. I’m sure there’ll be many more nice ones in the future.

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